File name: JAC Budget Hearings FY 13-14_20120118_133946.dcr Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\HAppropriations\Desktop\Recordings 0 ~ 1/18/2012 1:46:11 PM ~ 7 ~ 1/18/2012 1:46:18 PM ~ Nicholas: Look back at SER Gov recommended .... Mr. Hurless said Max grant 10 mill is seperately there is matching funds on top of that. 1:42 ~ 1/18/2012 1:47:52 PM ~ Richards That is correct 1:53 ~ 1/18/2012 1:48:04 PM ~ Nicholas Minerals has asked us to put on a second 300 instead of a seperate bill Now we are going to WICHE 3:00 ~ 1/18/2012 1:49:11 PM ~ Buchanan No exceptions to this budget 3:43 ~ 1/18/2012 1:49:54 PM ~ Nicholas Are you filling all the slots 3:56 ~ 1/18/2012 1:50:07 PM ~ Buchanan The are working with the assigned AG That repayment program will apply to all particpants 4:31 ~ 1/18/2012 1:50:42 PM ~ Nicholas That will start with the 2013 class 4:54 ~ 1/18/2012 1:51:04 PM ~ Edmons Why did you carve out the vet med 5:15 ~ 1/18/2012 1:51:25 PM ~ Buchanan A very low rate return rate. 5:38 ~ 1/18/2012 1:51:49 PM ~ Nicholas We don't have the same shortage as the other areas. Last year we finally agreed if you put your time in Wyoming. 6:33 ~ 1/18/2012 1:52:44 PM ~ Richards UW Medical Education 25 mill budget Gov rec 29 mill 7:24 ~ 1/18/2012 1:53:35 PM ~ Nicholas We are going to have to be real careful when we go through here. 7:44 ~ 1/18/2012 1:53:55 PM ~ Richards Page 11 167 budget Page 79 of handout. $713,000 denied by Governor When we benefitted from Mercer. They were not included but used the same percentage of increase Page 12 Benefits of Casper Unit Last year 40,000 patients. Collecting on those bills has been difficult or impossible. Provided all of the backbone for the University. Hire 31 employess (Page 13 of the budget). Gov. directed to work with Dept. of Health. Three options: redesigning under....... Shifts money from emergency care centers, which Wyoming has none. Staff positions, not necessarily the staff them self. Our goal this year is to have 30,000 patients 12:51 ~ 1/18/2012 1:59:01 PM ~ Harshman Give me some history The UW owns the building, owns the equiptment. I'm a patient there. 13:50 ~ 1/18/2012 2:00:01 PM ~ Richards After the split we intend to capture 2/3 of those patients 14:27 ~ 1/18/2012 2:00:38 PM ~ Harshman There are certainly personalities involved in this divorce. That was the principle..... There are no general funds in this request. In almost every other state. We opted 16:22 ~ 1/18/2012 2:02:32 PM ~ Buchanan It makes UW the largest provider of the non-insured and under insured in Wyoming. 17:11 ~ 1/18/2012 2:03:22 PM ~ Harshman How many of those are WHAMY students 17:28 ~ 1/18/2012 2:03:39 PM ~ Buchanan Very few. About 40% remain in Wyoming. There approximately 48 students at given time. We have 12 about 2/3 in Casper and 1/3 in Cheyenne. We have about 16 per year and about 2 out of 3 come back to Wyoming to practice. 19:37 ~ 1/18/2012 2:05:48 PM ~ Nicholas My guess that the WHMIE are primary care specialists From family practice 20:15 ~ 1/18/2012 2:06:26 PM ~ Buchanan About 8 per year 20:28 ~ 1/18/2012 2:06:38 PM ~ Nicholas You have physicians that are.... 20:49 ~ 1/18/2012 2:07:00 PM ~ Edmonds List of you employees Your EMT positions are you going to try and recruit those positions 21:23 ~ 1/18/2012 2:07:34 PM ~ Buchanan The CCW and UW went their seperate ways. Significantly went to UW and brought their salaries with them. 22:04 ~ 1/18/2012 2:08:15 PM ~ Nicholas Going back to this laboris We fund both entities Tell us about the devorce 22:40 ~ 1/18/2012 2:08:51 PM ~ Buchanan The arragement that created it was created medicaid payments to capture those One of the requrirements was that over 50% had to be patients of the unti. It was hard to keep any members for any length of time. When CCW decided to specialize, it did not give us the broad experience that we wanted for our stucents. We were already 26:26 ~ 1/18/2012 2:12:37 PM ~ Nicholas Now we have two facilites paid by tax papers 26:59 ~ 1/18/2012 2:13:09 PM ~ Buchanan I don't know. three operations. 27:29 ~ 1/18/2012 2:13:40 PM ~ Nicholas Same funds?? 27:48 ~ 1/18/2012 2:13:59 PM ~ Nicholas No state money? 28:01 ~ 1/18/2012 2:14:12 PM ~ Richard You passed a bill last year for 2 mill. for community facilities 28:38 ~ 1/18/2012 2:14:49 PM ~ Nicholas Ultimately you pay for it. My frustation is that we paid for two entities under one roof. Now we have to pay for two agencies and TWO buildings! 30:03 ~ 1/18/2012 2:16:14 PM ~ Richards There is a community health center in Cheyenne 30:47 ~ 1/18/2012 2:16:58 PM ~ Nicholas Where do you go from here? Three potential proposals to attraict...... 31:23 ~ 1/18/2012 2:17:34 PM ~ Richards: I think an appropriate might be found in the governor's comments. 32:32 ~ 1/18/2012 2:18:42 PM ~ Nicholas I guess is that both communites want those facilities there 33:14 ~ 1/18/2012 2:19:24 PM ~ Edmonds Community health centers to have a place in the communites. 33:45 ~ 1/18/2012 2:19:55 PM ~ Nicholas Community Health centers, if they are federally funded..... Is the committee OK with the UW to resolve the difference. Is it a comfortable relationship 35:20 ~ 1/18/2012 2:21:30 PM ~ Buchanan Both of these programs are runnign today the way we wanted it too. 35:54 ~ 1/18/2012 2:22:05 PM ~ Richards Page 23 of the handout Gov recomends We could have reduced hours?? 36:59 ~ 1/18/2012 2:23:09 PM ~ Steward I have reminded how he is going to evaluate What is our base line 37:39 ~ 1/18/2012 2:23:50 PM ~ Buchanan We did have an external reiview of teh Cheyenne program. 38:17 ~ 1/18/2012 2:24:28 PM ~ Harshman Page 13 Nearly 20,000 patients per year Then nearly 30 million Our two population centers of the State. 39:36 ~ 1/18/2012 2:25:46 PM ~ Nicholas I don't know if we are the right committee or Labor but it is on our lists. Would be your practice to report it out. 40:36 ~ 1/18/2012 2:26:47 PM ~ Nicholas Give it to us and Labor. I 40:57 ~ 1/18/2012 2:27:08 PM ~ Nicholas You have the exception requests A lot of these are internal funds Next budget 41:50 ~ 1/18/2012 2:28:01 PM ~ Richards The same situation in Cheyenne Page 25 Exceptional request. B11 signed by Gov. Reduced Cheyenne facilty by 2 positions and currently ingaged for a new director search. 43:43 ~ 1/18/2012 2:29:54 PM ~ Nicholas Maybe The idea of making 2.3 million of operating funds if you are going to use those as operationg funds. That is exactly my point One is you are going to cut the budget the other is to identfy other income sources. 45:17 ~ 1/18/2012 2:31:28 PM ~ Berer If we cut those services to those patients do they und up in the emergency rooms. 46:14 ~ 1/18/2012 2:32:24 PM ~ Nicholas If we go back to the salary cuts, would the same analysis apply to these positions. Then with respect to one time general funds, you are saying we have a short fall.. 47:39 ~ 1/18/2012 2:33:50 PM ~ Buchanan With out that infusion we will cut back services. That is currect 48:26 ~ 1/18/2012 2:34:37 PM ~ Richards We don't have a shortfall. It increases the one time and higher Part of it was because of equipment that needs to be updated 49:55 ~ 1/18/2012 2:36:06 PM ~ Nicholas That is about a 10% increase. In the absence of a plan, I assume you will be asking for and incrase each year. Put it on our list If you don't get your salary increases....... What I need from you Don is a blueprint on where you are going. 52:39 ~ 1/18/2012 2:38:50 PM ~ Berger I think .... 52:58 ~ 1/18/2012 2:39:09 PM ~ Nicholas Richard The Page 31 WWAMI We will have a total 80 students The gov. approved the rest of budget. When we say no and you need one 56:26 ~ 1/18/2012 2:42:36 PM ~ Buchanan The population for WWAMI students is in good shape 57:04 ~ 1/18/2012 2:43:14 PM ~ Richards Advanced Nurse Pract Program It changes it to a three year program. 6 will graduate this spring This has two programs. Changes for 2 years to 3 years. We are having difficultie filling these slots. Two more Page 40 Cut back for 10 to 8 That is Neb. at Lincoln, and :Last Budget Page 44 1:00:36 ~ 1/18/2012 2:46:47 PM ~ Nicholas Distance Education 1:02:38 ~ 1/18/2012 2:48:49 PM ~ Leach: Introductino of Dr. Murdoch and overview. Working to remove duplications, Brought together stake holders. Video conferencing and distance learning. 1:04:29 ~ 1/18/2012 2:50:40 PM ~ Murdoch: Introduce dr. Liz Simson, director of Wyoming Distance Learning Center. Dr. Aylward could not attend. Andy Corbin from Wyo Community College Commission. Accomplishments: First effort to develop ...collaborative. First effort to move state agency training to a common platform to reduce costs. First effort to provide statewide resource for qualified online statewide instruction., to develop a baseline database which will serve a basis for assessment. Significance of accomplishments....3 main systems, Wyoming, WIN video and outridger video network, all have been technologically integrated. 3 main services: bridging, scheduling; help desk for end users Second accomplishments of video conferencing provides new opportunities 1:08:57 ~ 1/18/2012 2:55:08 PM ~ Murdoch: Budget: Information packet, revised budget information, Request 2.76 million , 2.94 million. Gov recommended no additional funding for either entity. We will have rollover funds. You funded us and we will have some roll overs. Governor did not propose any additional funding. Two differnet budget revisions: One is maintnenace only 800,00 for Wyoming Distance learning center and ..for vido conferencing.. Included with materials should be reauthorization letter from Governor Mead, To meet the reauthorization of the governor, believe we will need to go past maintenace, 4 million for visionary budget. Wyo distance learning and video conferencing will not reach full potential in 2 yrs. Without funding, will run out of money before then. 1:13:41 ~ 1/18/2012 2:59:51 PM ~ Nicholas: Pitch to us is same as to Governor? 1:13:52 ~ 1/18/2012 3:00:03 PM ~ Murdoch: Did not pursue conversation fully with Governor's office. 1:14:06 ~ 1/18/2012 3:00:17 PM ~ Nicholas: To fund an executive branch program that Governor has not recommended is problamatic. If you think pitch to Governor was not good enough, incumbant on you to got to Governor. He can send up a letter saying he changed his mind. We appreciate what you have done, do not want to lose momentum. Must be a shared vision. Some time before Monday mark up. Process we adhere to. 1:15:55 ~ 1/18/2012 3:02:06 PM ~ Mfurdoch: This task force has a conundrum, reauthoriztion letter from Governor , without funding. 1:16:21 ~ 1/18/2012 3:02:32 PM ~ Leach: We have sent request to meet with him. We take complete responsibility, appreciate your advice, establishing a model for other collaberatives without establishing other agencies. 1:17:15 ~ 1/18/2012 3:03:25 PM ~ Berger: Will the appropraiton get you to the supplemental or change work in next 12 months? 1:17:34 ~ 1/18/2012 3:03:45 PM ~ Murdoch: With distance center scrape by. Not case for video conferencing. Stake holders provide vision and see them closely tied together. Personnel heavy in distance center. Video conferencing heavy in equipment. For video conference enterprise, itwill not last unti lthe next legislative session. 1:18:52 ~ 1/18/2012 3:05:03 PM ~ Berger: lose momentum, Have you worked with CIO Flint Waters? 1:19:05 ~ 1/18/2012 3:05:16 PM ~ Leach: Flint Waters sits on the task force with us, talk of not duplicating, gives feedback and training us. 1:19:40 ~ 1/18/2012 3:05:51 PM ~ Meier: Talked to health department? Telehealth and mental health. Because of new OCIO organization have some federal funds not billed out, trying to figure how to get them back in system 1:20:31 ~ 1/18/2012 3:06:42 PM ~ Murdoch: Working with Dep of Health. 1:20:45 ~ 1/18/2012 3:06:56 PM ~ Von Flatern: Balance saying what is left is based on August? pg 42 1:21:28 ~ 1/18/2012 3:07:38 PM ~ Murdoch? Will have a rollover for distance cnerer will be about 1 million and 321,000 for video conferencing. Budget differences: Planning expenitures not reflected in UW budget when info was transferred to budget office. 1:22:49 ~ 1/18/2012 3:08:59 PM ~ Von Flatern:? 1:22:59 ~ 1/18/2012 3:09:10 PM ~ Nicholas Gov rec pg 37 and 41. Zeroed out on page 37, 1.3 million unused at end of biennium, get anotehr 600,000 Will not be called on toe revert the a.3 so have 1.9 available to you. How long to accomplish dream? 1:24:18 ~ 1/18/2012 3:10:28 PM ~ Murdoch: Based on experience and what WDLC and video conferencing do, it will take through next biennium to be fully operational. Will they go away after that? No. May go away in future, I cannot say when. 1:25:16 ~ 1/18/2012 3:11:26 PM ~ Nicholas: Total resources for these services across the ballpark, what are we paying? 1:25:37 ~ 1/18/2012 3:11:48 PM ~ Murdoch: What re you already paying for in community colleges, dept of ED and UW for WDLC and video conferencing. We can get that number but it is difficult. Outreach school gets 25% from state, UW remainder is from tuition. 1:26:58 ~ 1/18/2012 3:13:09 PM ~ Nicholas: Thought we had tens of millions of dollars, state agencies with uncoordinanted funding. 1:27:40 ~ 1/18/2012 3:13:51 PM ~ Leach: Hired a consultant, difficult measurement to get to. Multiple items to identify this cost. Reliance on internet background to carry these services goes into another project. Community colleges equipment out of date. Desktop video conferencing , different delivery. Have attempted to assess 400 end points. WEN: Wyo equality network. Has two functionalities, one is video conferencing, the second is the internet connections it supports, which supports every community college and K-12 educationally and administratively. 1:29:35 ~ 1/18/2012 3:15:45 PM ~ Murdoch: Clariy info wanted> For video conf alone or for distance learning? 1:29:56 ~ 1/18/2012 3:16:07 PM ~ Nicholas: Multiple agencies spending millions on broadband, teleconferencing. Other agencies with no access to it. Underutilized back bone services. Dream to stop employees driving around, lower costs, adjust broadband. Do not know of redundancies and have silos. Have spent ...million and have not figured it all out is disappointing. 1:31:23 ~ 1/18/2012 3:17:34 PM ~ Murdoch: We have a list of video conferencing sites and bridging. All entities with video conferencing are tied together technologically. Any equipment requests go through task force and OCIO. can not speak dto broad band. Know where equipment is, end of life, licensing costs, centralized in video conferencing. 1:32:49 ~ 1/18/2012 3:18:59 PM ~ Nicholas: Burn through 3 million? 1:33:03 ~ 1/18/2012 3:19:14 PM ~ Murdoch: Expenditure in distance center is personnel, director and instructional designers to develop distance courses. Ex: Wyo law enforcement academy traveled to Douglas, will spend 3 weeks instead of 14 in Douglas. Hiring program manager, centralized bridge or MCU in conjuntion with WDE, now under control of video conferencing. Classes for several agencies, learning management system, dept of health, License purchased by WDLC so each state agency did not have to purchase license 1:35:29 ~ 1/18/2012 3:21:40 PM ~ Nicholas: Recollection of effort and goal: How much spent for broad band and getting full utilization for schools, for UW? Video conferencing facilities two and three times in town or no staff, do not know how to use it, Integrating all of this. Parties have not said what total broadband, etc are. Some one must reformualte objective and make sure aligned. Shared dream or compelled by legislation. Not denying benefits. Not combined product we were looking for. Time to revisit. Foot note. Frustrated. 1:39:10 ~ 1/18/2012 3:25:21 PM ~ Murdoch: Difficulty: WDLC needs to become the place of choice for state agencies to devlop training and platforms, has not been mandated to them. VC center: Stake holders, state agencies, Health , transportation, education and community colleges have a shared vision. Can get visioning documents to you. Fledgling operations. Will speak to Governor. Budget to match reauthorizaton charge to task force. 1:40:43 ~ 1/18/2012 3:26:53 PM ~ Nicholas: Practical effects: Two days until mark up. 50 million problem for Governor, this is small part. Assume no opportunity to get in and talk to Governor. REcommendation: Don Richards, create a section 300 that will authroize the expenditures of the dollars that are there, set up what you want and need, capture where you are going and who needs to populate, reformualte dream, provide trigger. Dollars would not be allowed to go out without plan. Before the money is spent, a unified mission statement. Burn rate. Deliverables. New budget sheets are meaningless unless have gone through A&I and the Governor. 1:43:59 ~ 1/18/2012 3:30:10 PM ~ Peterson: two year task force, to gather data but not fix it. When the money runs out, are we going to have a report to use to fix the problem? 1:44:38 ~ 1/18/2012 3:30:49 PM ~ Murdoch: Consultants hired in 2009 were the ones who provided the recommendations for what we would do with DL and VC as strategic ressources. From those recs, task force made recommendation to Governor Freudenthal. WDLC and VC. We have done that. We have gone beyond the idea of a report and that is basis of appropraition in 2010. 1:46:02 ~ 1/18/2012 3:32:12 PM ~ Peterson: Narrative of Governor's response, task force. appreciate your work, hope closer to solving problem. 1:46:28 ~ 1/18/2012 3:32:39 PM ~ Nicholas: Do not know whose original idea, had become a high priority of Gov Freudenthal when it came to us. Irrelevant unless new administration pick it up. 2 million committment is substantial. Only do that when Governor says we will do it. What is new vision of the new Governor , level of committment, benefit he sees. Only one to tell agencies to cooperate or there will be consequences. You do not have authority to do that. You are doing best you can with entities that want to play ball with you. Running out of time. do not spend any more money without clear vision. Create a section 300. 1:49:20 ~ 1/18/2012 3:35:31 PM ~ Leach: Broadband has never been combined in this project. Infrastructure without broadband is subsets. As part of section 300, will ask Governor about broadband conversation being combined with this. 1:50:12 ~ 1/18/2012 3:36:23 PM ~ Nichoals: Recollection, How much are we spending with different IT guys and different equipment, tens of millions and ongoing. Check to providers..are taxpayers getting all of the utilization of the broadband? 1:51:17 ~ 1/18/2012 3:37:27 PM ~ Steward: In packet is 3 page letter, pg 101, from Govenor outlining objectives. 60 days t osubmit a budget to outline goals and objectives. When you come up with a budget you fall short to accomplish his objectives? 1:52:21 ~ 1/18/2012 3:38:32 PM ~ Leach: yes, true, charge is beyond what we can reach. 1:53:18 ~ 1/18/2012 3:39:29 PM ~ Nicholas: 1:53:21 ~ 1/18/2012 3:39:32 PM ~ Murdoch: VC has buy in. We were charged with originally, conversations you had with former Govenor were different. Conversations with OCIO, priority for him. These two enterprises will benefit from that. 1:54:16 ~ 1/18/2012 3:40:27 PM ~ Berger: New sheets on budget. Substantial amount to personnel to operate. Contacts for management: Are they one year? 1:54:59 ~ 1/18/2012 3:41:09 PM ~ Murdoch: Personnel are ongoing expense. Learning management system is a one year license. Wanted to see what would happen 1:55:24 ~ 1/18/2012 3:41:35 PM ~ Berger: if successful, would go into negotiations for more long term? 1:55:37 ~ 1/18/2012 3:41:47 PM ~ Murdoch: Correct. 1:55:49 ~ 1/18/2012 3:42:00 PM ~ Berger: High cost of equipment with respect to bridging? 1:56:02 ~ 1/18/2012 3:42:13 PM ~ Lease: Cordium bridging is very expensive 1:56:33 ~ 1/18/2012 3:42:44 PM ~ Berger: State has alrady made a sign. investment. Cost savings due to less travel time. should be buy in due to that. 1:57:09 ~ 1/18/2012 3:43:20 PM ~ Murdoch: Codium bridges, have classrooms, moving to desktop VC. AGencies are tracking learning of employees. . 1:58:18 ~ 1/18/2012 3:44:29 PM ~ Leach: Task force, data and development of buy in. changing a culture of driving to meetings and using IPAD. We did not fuly comprehend charge from previous Governor. 1:59:29 ~ 1/18/2012 3:45:40 PM ~ Nicholas: pg 39 budget, collaboration with other agencies...broadband. Governor Mead's letter, evaluate ways, provide recommendation for base, research and recommend new technologies... Private industry practices. We do not have that capacity in state govt, not where we need to be. If you can't compell the only one who can is the Chief Executive Officer. 2:02:05 ~ 1/18/2012 3:48:15 PM ~ Break 2:02:28 ~ 1/18/2012 4:17:55 PM ~ 2:02:32 ~ 1/18/2012 4:17:59 PM ~ Enhanced Oil Recovery 2:03:47 ~ 1/18/2012 4:19:14 PM ~ Bruce Created on 2004 20 staff, use 20 from UW We are employees of UW When we talk about exception budget salary increases are not included in our budget. We have an ourreach mission. We have two internal conferences. We have a technical advisory board They consist of mojor operators on the board. We are fortunate to have them on the board Cover sheet on 161 handout. We help attract operators to Wyoming. I am going to show some plots that have been created in Wyoming. It is an improved output field. We are starting to see oil in the tank. The next large project will be grieve. We are anticipating that project will be 20 mill barrels over the next 20 years. We will be rolling those out in the next few months via workshops. Slumberjay has offered their software valued at 20 mill dollars. We have folks that come from all over the world to our converences. WE generated a white paper for the BLM RMP. 13 of the 15 oil reservoirs are in the Big Horn Basin.. We have rellocated some of our staff to be able to work with small oil companies. The reason we concentrate on the tensleep and menalusa is because that posses the most potential for oil recovery With that, I would like to goe to the plots Production ....... We have seen a rapid developement of enhanced oil & gas recovery. Blue represents Salt Creek. The last plot historical production since 1981. Now, less than half since our "high". 2:15:36 ~ 1/18/2012 4:31:03 PM ~ Bruce We could almost double our production in the Big Horn Basin We do cooperative work with the University. We have been budgeted for 4.??? million for the last two bienniums. We will operated within our existing budget 2:18:02 ~ 1/18/2012 4:33:30 PM ~ Nicholas Do you have a percentage of the budget that gets locked into the same budget all the time. 2:18:43 ~ 1/18/2012 4:34:10 PM ~ Bruce They are projects. They have a beginning and they have an end. 2/3 of that is staff. A typical project is 6-9 months. Are all those folks paid by UW, they teach courses 2:20:41 ~ 1/18/2012 4:36:09 PM ~ Nicholas So then when we drop down to..... are those your employees Over to the right 2:21:32 ~ 1/18/2012 4:36:59 PM ~ Bruce We have consultants that are brought in for a limited amount of time. 2:22:02 ~ 1/18/2012 4:37:29 PM ~ Nicholas When you look at your budget, are they paid out of Unit 201 Gov's rec of 5.1 mill. dollars So 2/3, the other 1/3 goes to what 2:23:20 ~ 1/18/2012 4:38:47 PM ~ Bruce Software, 2:23:32 ~ 1/18/2012 4:38:59 PM ~ Nicholas Is that ratio comfortable 2:23:49 ~ 1/18/2012 4:39:16 PM ~ Bruce It has worked well over the last two years. 2:24:28 ~ 1/18/2012 4:39:55 PM ~ Nicholas You have a ........ How do you balance those 2:24:59 ~ 1/18/2012 4:40:26 PM ~ Bruce There is a pie chart at the end of the handout Projects on the right side are the longer term projects 2:26:10 ~ 1/18/2012 4:41:38 PM ~ Eli It is such a moving target, You have taken away a billion dollars of gas. They have since reevaluated their RMP 2:27:52 ~ 1/18/2012 4:43:19 PM ~ Bruce One of the things we look at is that they make some changs. That is the advantage of having nonacademic folks running 2:29:02 ~ 1/18/2012 4:44:29 PM ~ Nicholas Do parts of those projects get donations from partners 2:29:47 ~ 1/18/2012 4:45:14 PM ~ Dave We took the results back, we will probably entrodhuced new models to get the oil out. 2:30:53 ~ 1/18/2012 4:46:21 PM ~ Nicholas: Grad Studenets will live and die by getting these dollars. Aren't they paying anything into the projects. Secondly are we leveraging those funds. 2:32:48 ~ 1/18/2012 4:48:15 PM ~ Bruce Will answer in two parts because we have a variety of partners. Smaller companies will not fund staff payments. When we go the BIg Horn there will be major operators up there 2:34:43 ~ 1/18/2012 4:50:10 PM ~ Von Flatern I know some .... Is there any revenue involved. with these projects 2:35:32 ~ 1/18/2012 4:51:00 PM ~ Bruce I do have a the second memo talkds about finantial contributions 2:36:26 ~ 1/18/2012 4:51:53 PM ~ Nicholas Since I have kids that went to college and you talk to people in the service. Could those professors could demand those kind of monies. Would we get 2:38:03 ~ 1/18/2012 4:53:30 PM ~ Eli There are two things going on. When you look at the operators, that is the way they will go. More incrased productivity relates to more oil royalties. This looks at known reservoirs we have. That is the way I would look at it. University of Alberta in Canada. 2:40:46 ~ 1/18/2012 4:56:13 PM ~ Nicholas The state says, this is the focus. Diferrent types research Our 2:42:03 ~ 1/18/2012 4:57:31 PM ~ Nicholas The university says that you are getting committment from.. 2:42:51 ~ 1/18/2012 4:58:18 PM ~ Bruce One does not exclude the other. I heard this morning that they are looking for 10 mill of matching funds to do research. We are not stopping them from getting 2:44:27 ~ 1/18/2012 4:59:54 PM ~ Nicholas We dropped the advanced degree 2:44:58 ~ 1/18/2012 5:00:25 PM ~ Bruce We fund ...... It gives us access to their equipment and to their knowledge. We are using three different facilty to analyze one core. That is the hard part 2:46:24 ~ 1/18/2012 5:01:51 PM ~ Nicholas Any other questions OK, We will go to communty colleges 2:48:42 ~ 1/18/2012 5:04:09 PM ~ Dr Rose We were requested to provide numerous handouts, what all do you want to see. 2:49:32 ~ 1/18/2012 5:04:59 PM ~ Nicholas You are wanting increases, we are looking for decreases. It makes more sense to say live within your standard budget. 2:50:31 ~ 1/18/2012 5:05:58 PM ~ Rose We do apprecitate your position Our budget consists of two parts. One funds a agency, the other funds 7 communtiy colleges. With respect to state aid to the community colleges. It is conditions that existed in 2004 & 5 27% increase since then. The colleges are not at liberty to but what we can say that colleges have incurred expenses of the last 4 bienniums, We have provided to you the effects of 2, 5, & 8% budget cuts. We are looking for an upgrade to our technology computer system. 2:54:39 ~ 1/18/2012 5:10:06 PM ~ Nicholas We want to move technology forward and hold the line on salaries. AS you go through the budget, please identify the technology components so that we can take a close look at them. Can we recruite across state lines. 2:56:43 ~ 1/18/2012 5:12:10 PM ~ Rose We think we have given .... We have selectively made cuts of the 2,5 & 8 % cuts, we could live with them Page 14 What is delenates a system that is 20 years old. It is a system that is no longer functional. To make it a great deal more flexiable. The CIO also supports a cloud based platform. If that works for us, we will move that to the colleges 3:00:04 ~ 1/18/2012 5:15:31 PM ~ Nicholas Where the customers where the cusomers are clouding in. 3:00:31 ~ 1/18/2012 5:15:58 PM ~ Rose We are using the migration to the states system here in Cheyenne. We are suppose to manage that information. That will allow us to move to the cloud enviroment . If that is successful, we will be one of the agencies that will pioneer that system 3:02:29 ~ 1/18/2012 5:17:57 PM ~ Nicholas Is this a coordinated effort? 3:02:45 ~ 1/18/2012 5:18:12 PM ~ Rose Yes we are. We have been meeting with the CIO. We are required to supply gainful work data. All the entities that we collaborate with. 3:04:05 ~ 1/18/2012 5:19:32 PM ~ Nicholas YOu are going to see a section 300 for seeing this data collection. I know that this is an area that you are very comfortaable with..Do you think you will get the service you want. 3:05:28 ~ 1/18/2012 5:20:55 PM ~ Rose A minor unique exception. I think he has assemble a very compentent team. The CIO has his eye on the target. We support the decision 3:06:58 ~ 1/18/2012 5:22:25 PM ~ Nicholas The exception is UW 3:07:14 ~ 1/18/2012 5:22:42 PM ~ Rose We don't want to be exempted We serve the colleges 3:07:44 ~ 1/18/2012 5:23:11 PM ~ Nicholas If you have two different enterprise, is that a problem. 3:08:12 ~ 1/18/2012 5:23:39 PM ~ Rose That is a very specific kind of datat. The other is data we can place on the state server. We are not asking to be taken out. 3:08:56 ~ 1/18/2012 5:24:23 PM ~ Nicholas Next item 3:09:04 ~ 1/18/2012 5:24:31 PM ~ Rose That is a budget request for our agency is a hardware request. We had a request of 57,000, gov cut to 55,000, CIO cut to 27,000. We understand the need to reduce budgets 3:11:24 ~ 1/18/2012 5:26:51 PM ~ When we see the handout 3:13:17 ~ 1/18/2012 5:28:44 PM ~ Rose Page 24 We operate 4 programs This is dealing with a population that is not covered by other programs. For every one the graduate, we will have X kids with no high school education 3:15:00 ~ 1/18/2012 5:30:28 PM ~ Von Flatern It would have my support for it. 3:15:54 ~ 1/18/2012 5:31:21 PM ~ Nicholas Tell me about this spread sheet. 3:16:10 ~ 1/18/2012 5:31:37 PM ~ Rose This is what we gave to the CIO 3:16:46 ~ 1/18/2012 5:32:13 PM ~ Nicholas Give us one more column. 3:17:10 ~ 1/18/2012 5:32:37 PM ~ Rose The standard state aid budget Any adjustments are via exceptions. We feel that 14 mill is a legitimate cost for all the expense We accept that change They have hired additional facality to accomodate the additional students. 3:20:15 ~ 1/18/2012 5:35:42 PM ~ Nicholas What is the @% 3:20:51 ~ 1/18/2012 5:36:18 PM ~ Rose Under the 8% is 14 mill It would be a one time increase and request an increase based on the increased enrollment. We can provide that. 3:22:25 ~ 1/18/2012 5:37:52 PM ~ Rose The funding formula isa two sided formula One is the fixed costs. The other side is by the amount of credits that the colleges deliver. Level 3 is high technolgy What is the amount of state aid that will accurr. One of the other reason of the 22 mill that we originally requested 3:24:36 ~ 1/18/2012 5:40:03 PM ~ Nicholas Position payments Then along comes court reform. How does this void that. You are driven as many credits as you can. 3:25:45 ~ 1/18/2012 5:41:12 PM ~ Rose That is part of a block grant. WE are required by our state plan to...... We focus so heavily on access if a student doesn't graduate in a certain time, it is expensive for the student and expensive to the colleges. All of the students that are in the 12% group 3:28:15 ~ 1/18/2012 5:43:42 PM ~ Nicholas Can we afford even if we could afford it..Those formulas have never achieved what we wanted to. UW would say that we have we have cranked out this many credit hours, we want the big check 3:30:13 ~ 1/18/2012 5:45:40 PM ~ Rose We are mandated to recallebrate our model every 4 years. It is so variable. Once you have something nailed down, some things change. This model is way ahead from where we were years ago. It is very transparent. We can 3:31:57 ~ 1/18/2012 5:47:24 PM ~ Steward What is the history Grown every year since 3:32:26 ~ 1/18/2012 5:47:53 PM ~ Rose We have proposed exception budgets We propose them, some are reduced We are now in a period where growth is flattening out. We regage back into a base period 3:34:02 ~ 1/18/2012 5:49:29 PM ~ Steward Did we use ARE funds for this last year. 3:34:31 ~ 1/18/2012 5:49:58 PM ~ Rose We use some stimulas funds 3:34:43 ~ 1/18/2012 5:50:10 PM ~ Peterson Guesing the Hathaway Scholarship had something to do with this growth. 3:35:46 ~ 1/18/2012 5:51:14 PM ~ Rose I would rely upon the presidents to know how and why they increased I think UW incrased in a bigger percentage that we did. One thing we have done with our tuition and we take out california We try to stay in sink with them and slightly lower than them. We are falling behind them now.. There is a lot a data available 3:38:32 ~ 1/18/2012 5:53:59 PM ~ Peterson The economy has been hard on the family's 3:38:59 ~ 1/18/2012 5:54:26 PM ~ Rose we believe that community colleges are counter to the economy until.... There is a flattening because we have seen those people We could go through all the exception requests. 3:41:37 ~ 1/18/2012 5:57:05 PM ~ Nicholas We are debating what to do 3:43:28 ~ 1/18/2012 5:58:55 PM ~ Agar Education on Monday 3:44:12 ~ 1/18/2012 5:59:39 PM ~ Mai Come back at 8:00 3:44:35 ~ 1/18/2012 6:00:02 PM ~ Nicholas We wil come back at 8:00