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0 ~ 1/17/2011 12:42:01 PM ~ Monday, January 17, 2011 12:30 pm Continuation from morning hearing State Parks and Cultural Resources JACSupplementalBudgetIndex0117pm1
1 ~ 1/17/2011 12:42:03 PM ~ Berger: Welcome back Introductions
13 ~ 1/17/2011 12:42:14 PM ~ Simpson: Archive Storage Sjpace
32 ~ 1/17/2011 12:42:34 PM ~ Anita: Tours available to see storage..7 am, lunchbreaks, willing to accomodate..business cards at the desk. Meet at Barrett building in the lobby.
1:23 ~ 1/17/2011 12:43:24 PM ~ Berger
1:26 ~ 1/17/2011 12:43:28 PM ~ Simpson: Photos all from archives, Stimpson photo collection Pg 19
1:56 ~ 1/17/2011 12:43:57 PM ~ Bravo:: Administrator, .trails.. Handout economic impact..does not include what trails bring in..working on that Adding Law Enforcement Officers to retirement system Goal: Get positions into system Utah officer shot; Utah covers state park rangers under state park retirement which covers disability. Biggest part: Being covered for disability
5:20 ~ 1/17/2011 12:47:21 PM ~ Berger: Retirement may be entire interim topic in March
5:36 ~ 1/17/2011 12:47:38 PM ~ Simpson: Situation currently is disincentive #2 priority - an emergency situation is pine beetle situation, affecting the state parks, not enough resources to mitigate the species,
6:55 ~ 1/17/2011 12:48:57 PM ~ Bravo: Found resources with state forestry and federal....tried to find funding last year to save some species..current funding only allows that
7:42 ~ 1/17/2011 12:49:43 PM ~ Berger: Original request not the same as Governor's recommendation so only a start
8:02 ~ 1/17/2011 12:50:03 PM ~ Bravo: Correct...Not sure what resources we will use to do other areas
8:17 ~ 1/17/2011 12:50:18 PM ~ Von Flatern: If you receive funding, spend it before next budget session?
8:32 ~ 1/17/2011 12:50:33 PM ~ Bravo: Spent before August 1st...removal treatment is in spring..
9:07 ~ 1/17/2011 12:51:08 PM ~ Wallis: Discussions in AG committee..federal money designated for beetle control..state forestry had control of funds. Is that available to you?
9:45 ~ 1/17/2011 12:51:46 PM ~ Bravo: Only assist with planning, no spraying or removal..all that funding is used for
10:14 ~ 1/17/2011 12:52:15 PM ~ Berger: Plan for beetle removal and total budget?3
10:28 ~ 1/17/2011 12:52:29 PM ~ Bravo: Some is down in-house. Each park has its own plan, trying to put into one plan. Guernsey is one with largest issue
11:06 ~ 1/17/2011 12:53:08 PM ~ Berger: need global view and time frame..more info. on status statewide..before mark-up
11:34 ~ 1/17/2011 12:53:35 PM ~ Simpson: Pg 20 - Priority #4 Increasing utility costs...costs are rising
12:14 ~ 1/17/2011 12:54:15 PM ~ Bravo: Governor's recommendations, A&I. In 09 and 10 standard budget, the 200,000 for utilities was left off. 11-12 budget startup funding about 41,000 dollars...last request $125,000. The 10% cut wiped out anything we were getting..putting us back to 05-06 level.
14:12 ~ 1/17/2011 12:56:13 PM ~ Bravo: Funding utilities leaves little money to run the parks. Utility costs are fixed and high for the department Registration fee Can not make it to end of bieenium
15:13 ~ 1/17/2011 12:57:15 PM ~ Berger: close park
15:22 ~ 1/17/2011 12:57:23 PM ~ Bravo: yes
15:25 ~ 1/17/2011 12:57:27 PM ~ Berger: spreadsheet of historical
15:43 ~ 1/17/2011 12:57:44 PM ~ Von Flatern: Toilet pumping..is that seasonal contracts matching biennium, would like to see it seperate
16:05 ~ 1/17/2011 12:58:07 PM ~ Bravo: Contracts have come down because we have dropped services. Try to flex..
16:54 ~ 1/17/2011 12:58:55 PM ~ Berger: Handout given to Don for costs
17:06 ~ 1/17/2011 12:59:07 PM ~ Simpson: Pg 21, priority #5- Convert seasonal positions to one full time position..allows taking care of personnel issues without growing govt and creating new positions
18:01 ~ 1/17/2011 1:00:02 PM ~ Bravo: Point of clarification - can fill 250 but the cap is at 150 and the funding is about 200. By converting 3 to a full time would still be within the cap and keep the funding for the seasonal. GIS is maps. Statutorily must supply maps for trails. Need someone for GIS, can not fill with seasonal employee...maps produced in-house
20:26 ~ 1/17/2011 1:02:28 PM ~ Simpson: approved by OCIL
20:40 ~ 1/17/2011 1:02:41 PM ~ Berger: Reason for denial
20:46 ~ 1/17/2011 1:02:47 PM ~ Simpson: Defer
20:51 ~ 1/17/2011 1:02:53 PM ~ Cox: Governor's position is that he keeps getting requests for additional part time help.; does not want to make any position changes, not recommended by Gov Mead either
21:35 ~ 1/17/2011 1:03:37 PM ~ Berger:
21:39 ~ 1/17/2011 1:03:40 PM ~ Simpson: Pg 22 - Rescue Boats Fatalities occur ...boating, ice, flooding, TRW committee, do no thave adequate boats, want to respond proactively.. first responders are us..
23:58 ~ 1/17/2011 1:05:59 PM ~ Pedersen: Do you have any rescue boats now?
24:15 ~ 1/17/2011 1:06:16 PM ~ Bravo: A few small pontoon boats..surplus..can not handle all rescues.Park Rangers are first responders..trained search and rescue, EMS, firefighters, law enforcement, high lighted last summer. Game and Fish is partner, can not enforce all laws , like drugs, domestic violence Crucial piece of equipment
26:29 ~ 1/17/2011 1:08:30 PM ~ Edmonds: Outlying another program with active patrol, procedure with game and fish and homeland security..vision with boats..what else do you need
27:11 ~ 1/17/2011 1:09:13 PM ~ Bravo: Most of the parks have a boat on the water. We do not patrol regularly. Game and Fish patrols..most emergencies happen when no one is patrolling.. Dept. responds to first call ..jcan not go out in choppy water with pontoon boat.. have no seen homeland security boats
28:27 ~ 1/17/2011 1:10:29 PM ~ Westerport: Homeland, Game and Fish, ...are search and recover, not a rescue.
29:11 ~ 1/17/2011 1:11:12 PM ~ Berger: Bravo: Have boats, fuel, training. Boats are not adequate .Cost is just for equipment. Choppy waters dictate need for better boats. System is in place, do not have equipment
30:34 ~ 1/17/2011 1:12:35 PM ~ Berger: Cost of boat
30:40 ~ 1/17/2011 1:12:41 PM ~ Bravo: 71000 per boat
30:56 ~ 1/17/2011 1:12:57 PM ~ Peterson: scale back to high utility areas?
31:09 ~ 1/17/2011 1:13:10 PM ~ Bravo: highest use, highest rate of accidents and facilities
31:21 ~ 1/17/2011 1:13:23 PM ~ Berger: Boat, prioritze resources, fatality or injuries
31:35 ~ 1/17/2011 1:13:37 PM ~ Edmonds: Game and Fish has jurisdiction on the water..rule about drinking and boating..who has jurisdiction
31:57 ~ 1/17/2011 1:13:58 PM ~ Berger: camp at state parks
32:03 ~ 1/17/2011 1:14:05 PM ~ Bravo;
32:10 ~ 1/17/2011 1:14:11 PM ~ Westerfield: Game and Fish through title 41. We assist with back up
32:40 ~ 1/17/2011 1:14:41 PM ~ Bravo: Their regulations,
33:03 ~ 1/17/2011 1:15:04 PM ~ Simpson: pg 23, Farm and shop equipment, dept is frugal in this area, let it wear out, ask for best deals, request is in priority order, consensus decision, Governor allocates money..go as far down list as possible.. requests for crucial equipment
34:26 ~ 1/17/2011 1:16:28 PM ~ Berger : Pg 24 top of page Historical practice
34:45 ~ 1/17/2011 1:16:46 PM ~ Simpson:
34:48 ~ 1/17/2011 1:16:49 PM ~ Hastert: Do you have bids for equipment, or estimate?
35:01 ~ 1/17/2011 1:17:02 PM ~ Bravo: Estimate..tried to be definitive on pieces, hope for a little flexibility in pieces
35:43 ~ 1/17/2011 1:17:44 PM ~ Simpson: Capital Construction Budget pg 40 South Pass City Historical Site.. ALM association want it to be a flagship site..historical gold mine..unique in the United States, mine and town sites..role in tourism No capacity to provide electricity or water #1 priority.. vandalism last year..Could have lost entire site to fire..minimum is to provide fire suppression. 1.7 million request,
37:54 ~ 1/17/2011 1:19:55 PM ~ Berger: most recent brochure on mine,
38:10 ~ 1/17/2011 1:20:12 PM ~ Simpson: okay
38:15 ~ 1/17/2011 1:20:16 PM ~ Bergo: #29 handout for agency 24 handout for flooding
38:37 ~ 1/17/2011 1:20:39 PM ~ Bravo: Had it in budget..realized insurance will cover some costs, expect another flood this year..puts it in emergency state..map shows camping and boating..areas of flooding..most of park was shut down..large fiscal impact to surrounding communities Contingency plans have different levels camping, port a johns, overflow parking, trailers, table and grills...We would be able to increase our capacity
41:30 ~ 1/17/2011 1:23:31 PM ~ Berger Have you apprised Gov. Mead
41:48 ~ 1/17/2011 1:23:49 PM ~ Meier It was devestating to Glendo and that area. The flood did unidate a large area. There was some bad or miss information. DOT put on their signs that the park was closed when in fact it wasn't. We need to concentrate on this because there is a lot of economic benefit from these parks..
44:44 ~ 1/17/2011 1:26:46 PM ~ Berger Further question for the Director
44:57 ~ 1/17/2011 1:26:58 PM ~ Simpson We are a small
45:19 ~ 1/17/2011 1:27:20 PM ~ Berger Lets go into Bd. of Equalization.
45:56 ~ 1/17/2011 1:27:57 PM ~ Berger Robers and Olmstead for Bd. of Equalization.
47:29 ~ 1/17/2011 1:29:30 PM ~ Roberts It's simple, we don't want any money, we just want to move some money. Bd. statastition. We hired a new person that is very sharp be needs training Move from 100 series to 200 series. $14,000 Ninth page of supplemental budget. Out of state money CAMMA They have agreed to put on a class but it is in Ft. Collins, CO. I will answer questions
52:04 ~ 1/17/2011 1:34:06 PM ~ Berger We will start at 3:30
52:39 ~ 1/17/2011 1:34:40 PM ~ Skoranski This represents the minamal amount to run this board. I don't anticipate many expenditures for supplies. The 800 series represents the amount we are paying back to A & I. I don't anticipate any
54:46 ~ 1/17/2011 1:36:47 PM ~ Steward I see the revenues are generated thru
55:05 ~ 1/17/2011 1:37:06 PM ~ Skoranski THey anticipate maybe 5 the first year maybe 10 in 3 years
55:42 ~ 1/17/2011 1:37:43 PM ~ Steward What would you predict in the fees were $5,000.
56:25 ~ 1/17/2011 1:38:27 PM ~ Skoranski I don't feel that people would pay that amount.
56:55 ~ 1/17/2011 1:38:56 PM ~ Berger THank YOu. Now we have Bd. of Medicine
57:27 ~ 1/17/2011 1:39:28 PM ~ Bohnenblust THe board liseces physicians and pysicians assistants. All liscense come due at the end of the fiscal year, the end of June. You can imagine complaints against physical are very detailed. When we converted that position to an investigator. However, it only took care of part of our needs. We would like to reallocate but we are in the boom of physican liscensing. One isit strickly special funds money. No increase in employees. I will answer any questions.
1:02:43 ~ 1/17/2011 1:44:44 PM ~ Berger Would you get a list to us
1:02:57 ~ 1/17/2011 1:44:58 PM ~ Bohnenblust We would do that.
1:03:19 ~ 1/17/2011 1:45:20 PM ~ Berger That would be hlepful
1:03:45 ~ 1/17/2011 1:45:46 PM ~ Steward What is the cost of a Physican liscence her in Wyoming.
1:04:29 ~ 1/17/2011 1:46:31 PM ~ Bohnenblust $600
1:04:47 ~ 1/17/2011 1:46:48 PM ~ Steward Compared to midwifes, this is pretty cheap or the otherway around
1:05:35 ~ 1/17/2011 1:47:36 PM ~ Berger WE are going to move on to Bd. of Nursing.
1:05:58 ~ 1/17/2011 1:47:59 PM ~ T. Berger Our request is to transfer 2 AWAC's to permenant employees. Our work load now requires the help of these two employees. Keeping these people in our office is essential to our mission.
1:08:21 ~ 1/17/2011 1:50:22 PM ~ Berger Any questions
1:08:31 ~ 1/17/2011 1:50:33 PM ~ Harshman Where is Berger from Who is that trend looking
1:09:25 ~ 1/17/2011 1:51:26 PM ~ T. Berger Basically it is increasing each year.
1:10:09 ~ 1/17/2011 1:52:11 PM ~ Harshman How to that comepare to 5 yrs ago
1:10:35 ~ 1/17/2011 1:52:36 PM ~ Berger Is the information that is on page 5?
1:10:53 ~ 1/17/2011 1:52:54 PM ~ Berger T. Yes, that is it, I forgot to turn the page. This is the third compliance consultant in the last two years.
1:11:59 ~ 1/17/2011 1:54:01 PM ~ Berger Any more questions
1:12:09 ~ 1/17/2011 1:54:11 PM ~ Berger T. Generally around $250 for nursing Costs very $50 to $250, LPN's
1:13:08 ~ 1/17/2011 1:55:10 PM ~ Berger We are planning to be back at 3:30.
1:14:13 ~ 1/17/2011 4:02:56 PM ~ Monday January 17, 2011 4:00 pm JACSupplementalbudget Index0117pm1 A& I and Military Department are scheduled for this afternoon
1:14:21 ~ 1/17/2011 4:03:04 PM ~ Berger: Introduction
1:14:35 ~ 1/17/2011 4:03:17 PM ~ Rich Cathcart, Administrator, Interim Director of A & I Chris Boswell, Rory Horselly, Bob, John Hartwig, Richard cox, Dean, Ralph, Veronica Pg 11 Item #1 - 55 mid-sized sedans, add on, plus 5 new vehicles 1,332,000 of depreciation reserve funds
1:17:10 ~ 1/17/2011 4:05:53 PM ~ Meier: Cargo Vans in the pool, not enough to go around? Information on cargo vans in the pool..availability..
1:18:20 ~ 1/17/2011 4:07:02 PM ~ Cathcart: do not know # of cargo vans on a day use scenerio..agencies schedule ahead of time..may not get it on the day needed, will ask about shortage
1:19:05 ~ 1/17/2011 4:07:48 PM ~ Esquibel: What is depreciation reserve funding? Trade-in of old vehicles
1:19:32 ~ 1/17/2011 4:08:15 PM ~ Cathcart: In state agencies operates like Hertz rent-a-car...vehicles owned by motor vehicle, leased out to agencies which pay for the leasing...covers depreciation..amount paid in on previous vehicle typically will cover new one
1:20:30 ~ 1/17/2011 4:09:12 PM ~ Von Flatern: 6.2 with this addition has been spent. How large is the reserve
1:20:52 ~ 1/17/2011 4:09:35 PM ~ Horsely: 6.8 million cash dollars in that reserve account..just beginning purchases of vehicles requested last year
1:21:24 ~ 1/17/2011 4:10:06 PM ~ Berger: Policy in past for new officials, hybrid vehicles, natural gas vehicles
1:21:54 ~ 1/17/2011 4:10:37 PM ~ Cathcart: Hybrids were more expensive in the past than comprable cars..needed to get 300,000 miles. There are some in the pool. First administration change..fairly common practice for new official to get a vehicle of their choice for a four year duration..may want to keep vehicle..close to being depreciated out.
1:23:36 ~ 1/17/2011 4:12:19 PM ~ Berger: How did we miss 55 mid-sized vans, inadvertantly? spoke with Annette..high mileage vehicles..just did not get on last budget request..additional 55 vehicles should have been on last budget..
1:24:23 ~ 1/17/2011 4:13:06 PM ~ Berger: Price of 19,999 per Sedan accurate?
1:24:37 ~ 1/17/2011 4:13:19 PM ~ Cathcart: spec out for state use, will bid the vehicles out, never bought from out-of-state,
1:25:19 ~ 1/17/2011 4:14:02 PM ~ Berger: Questions
1:25:26 ~ 1/17/2011 4:14:08 PM ~ Von Flatern: Term depreciated out..?
1:25:43 ~ 1/17/2011 4:14:25 PM ~ Cathcart: depreciation related to age of vehicle...85,000 to 120,000 miles..two criteria..
1:26:11 ~ 1/17/2011 4:14:54 PM ~ Von Flatern: 6.8 million in present balance, # vehicles in pool
1:26:29 ~ 1/17/2011 4:15:11 PM ~ Horsly: Cash amount..manager will do large bid to replace multiple vehicles, not necessarily monthly
1:26:59 ~ 1/17/2011 4:15:42 PM ~ Von Flatern: Agencies paying in monthly?
1:27:09 ~ 1/17/2011 4:15:52 PM ~ Horsely: Correct, monthly transfer into account
1:27:29 ~ 1/17/2011 4:16:11 PM ~ Berger: Explanation
1:27:34 ~ 1/17/2011 4:16:17 PM ~ Horsly: Monthly billing for permanently assigned vehicles. Non-permanent vehicles billed monthly as utilized
1:28:13 ~ 1/17/2011 4:16:56 PM ~ Von Flatern: Gaining amount needed to replace vehicles?
1:28:32 ~ 1/17/2011 4:17:14 PM ~ Cathcart: Lease amounts tweeked..no reason to have excess money in the reserve account.
1:28:54 ~ 1/17/2011 4:17:37 PM ~ Von Flatern: We put in some other money to fund this? Not perpetual..covering maintenance and capital?
1:29:24 ~ 1/17/2011 4:18:07 PM ~ Cathcart: Fees charged to agencies are for possession and use of vehicle, depreciation and maintenance.
1:30:03 ~ 1/17/2011 4:18:46 PM ~ Berger: move on
1:30:09 ~ 1/17/2011 4:18:51 PM ~ Cathcart: Rockwell maintenance contract will be deferred until Thursday
1:30:31 ~ 1/17/2011 4:19:13 PM ~ Cathcart: Utility costs request Cost estimate..end of biennium..will be 300,000 dollars short, added 3 buildings, Rex Warehouse, Rockwell building, new State lab. Those facilities not in original budget. 708,000 remaining in utilities account so Governor denied request. Good with that..will cover with ...flex.. Governor Mead concurs
1:32:11 ~ 1/17/2011 4:20:54 PM ~ Berger: Cap Con cover utilities for new construction...
1:32:30 ~ 1/17/2011 4:21:12 PM ~ Cathcart: Issue ..A & I owns Rockweel..distant site..building manager..short-sighted on operation cost..no budget request at the time.
1:33:14 ~ 1/17/2011 4:21:56 PM ~ Cathcart: Human Resources Insurance, Market Pay and Performance Pay will be laid back until Wednesday. Next item is Information Technology.. funded out of depreciation reserve account..similar to Motor Vehicle Agency...leasing and pay into reserve
1:34:56 ~ 1/17/2011 4:23:39 PM ~ Hartwig: First Virtual Server ...may place multiple servers on one box..reducing costs..replace virtual server with newer servers. Have 80 servers running currently, can increase so 33 will run on shared servers, reduce physical servers in our inventory,. power footprints..
1:36:24 ~ 1/17/2011 4:25:07 PM ~ Meier: Storage capacity - using internet to augment capacity..is it viable
1:37:08 ~ 1/17/2011 4:25:50 PM ~ Hartwig: Cloud technology..shared resources..disc space or temporary servers, have limited cloud based, have substantial out-sourced, accessing through the internet. Internal are file and print or unique. Right way to leverage is price and availablility..email is more robust in cloud, more secure, better operated.. Balance.. great opportunity..heavily leveraged in internal and outsourced
1:39:02 ~ 1/17/2011 4:27:44 PM ~ Meier: Different price points...savings down the road? projections?
1:39:29 ~ 1/17/2011 4:28:11 PM ~ Hartwig: No specific projections. Vendors are positive about savings. Market transition...Inherent need internally..servers tend to live 3 or 4 years then need replacement.. Do not know which area is more cost effective.. Savings in large-scale..
1:40:53 ~ 1/17/2011 4:29:36 PM ~ Meier: Fast food restaurants are cloud based,,Economies of scale may diminish..can use in more areas..
1:41:49 ~ 1/17/2011 4:30:32 PM ~ Hartwig; as market matures..
1:42:00 ~ 1/17/2011 4:30:43 PM ~ Cathcart: 2nd part is for hardware switches..out of the depreciation reserve
1:42:22 ~ 1/17/2011 4:31:05 PM ~ Wallis: Older servers no longer supported, being used by agency specific systems. upgrade cause problems with legacy systems
1:43:06 ~ 1/17/2011 4:31:48 PM ~ Hartwig: Change, hope not turmoil...migration plans including A & I department..migrating servers to Window (norvell servers)..proposal to change into windows and virtual servers..
1:44:06 ~ 1/17/2011 4:32:48 PM ~ Wallis: What is immediacy..reason for bringing up in supplemental budget.
1:44:36 ~ 1/17/2011 4:33:18 PM ~ Hartwig: Did not calculate the 82 servers from the state..did not know ..trying to be cautious in budget.
1:45:18 ~ 1/17/2011 4:34:00 PM ~ Wallis: Depreciation reserve same as for catrs
1:45:31 ~ 1/17/2011 4:34:13 PM ~ Hartwig: Correct
1:45:46 ~ 1/17/2011 4:34:29 PM ~ Nicholas; softball
1:45:56 ~ 1/17/2011 4:34:39 PM ~ Berger: deferred topics until Wed or Thur
1:46:14 ~ 1/17/2011 4:34:56 PM ~ Cathcart: Finished...high-tech redneck.
1:46:44 ~ 1/17/2011 4:35:27 PM ~ Berger: Have you expanded timeline on changes with IT with state services? innovation technology changes
1:47:09 ~ 1/17/2011 4:35:51 PM ~ Hartwig: unsure of question
1:47:17 ~ 1/17/2011 4:35:59 PM ~ Berger: outside vendors, will bring it back later
1:47:28 ~ 1/17/2011 4:36:10 PM ~ Hartwig: Balance of request is for cap con..discuss on Wed or Thurs.
1:47:59 ~ 1/17/2011 4:36:42 PM ~ Military Department General Wright They 3 blackhawk helecopters with them. THis is kind of alull for us. There will be more deployments and longer in duration. THe average is 6 peployments. I am concerned about the cumlative deployments - sucides. Change of child custody , If it is made during deployment, make it temporty Two of the four were WYoming residents
1:53:23 ~ 1/17/2011 4:42:06 PM ~ Nicholas Are other states seeing the same ratio as WYoming
1:53:49 ~ 1/17/2011 4:42:32 PM ~ Berger Do they have a number per 100,000?
1:54:22 ~ 1/17/2011 4:43:04 PM ~ Wright Two other issues. One is the challange program, the other is cold storage
1:55:56 ~ 1/17/2011 4:44:39 PM ~ Choke The Chanllenge Program That is the exact number of our deficiat When we moved for a 60/40 to a 75/25 Small size of this program. Short $604,000 for this program
1:57:49 ~ 1/17/2011 4:46:32 PM ~ Wright This is in the black handout Tab #14, page 13 We are projected to spend about $75,000 on this program. Time to time we are asked about this program Larger states have 300 to 400 applicants. We get kids with real issues. You have to staff for the number of kids that enroll on the first day. Page 15 shows the results from those who have graduated. One more page. The amount we are spending per child compared to other states. That $17,000 if you approve. the $48,000 is with the federal match.
2:02:56 ~ 1/17/2011 4:51:39 PM ~ Cowley Bd of DIr. There are 33 state programs across the nation $27 per capita per day High Shcool is $57 Adult correction 162 High School dropouts are under employed 68% of those incarserated are high school dropouts
2:05:09 ~ 1/17/2011 4:53:51 PM ~ Wright. We asking for the funding of $1,700 per student. We , Gov. did denie it.
2:06:02 ~ 1/17/2011 4:54:44 PM ~ Nicholas
2:06:19 ~ 1/17/2011 4:55:02 PM ~ Wright I don't know to what extent the Gov. considered.
2:06:53 ~ 1/17/2011 4:55:36 PM ~ Nicholas We do not hear numbers from Agencies who made requests to the Governor. I see that it is down $10,000 from last year. How much are you authorized to spend
2:08:35 ~ 1/17/2011 4:57:18 PM ~ Choke We changed from the 60/40 to 75/25 share. We didn't have .....
2:09:33 ~ 1/17/2011 4:58:15 PM ~ Nicholas That would be more than we have ever asked for before.
2:10:20 ~ 1/17/2011 4:59:03 PM ~ Wright No one is going to...
2:10:45 ~ 1/17/2011 4:59:28 PM ~ Nicholas You only get one side of the story We will have to bring in A&I to explain the other side of the argument.
2:11:56 ~ 1/17/2011 5:00:39 PM ~ Nicholas You brought this to us and said that the Feds would pay for this. You saying that A&I
2:12:49 ~ 1/17/2011 5:01:32 PM ~ Shope The new classification brought up employees to the minimal range of classification.
2:13:39 ~ 1/17/2011 5:02:22 PM ~ Nicholas If we made We have lots of state employees that are federal funded.
2:14:44 ~ 1/17/2011 5:03:27 PM ~ Shope That is why we are asking for money for those programs
2:15:08 ~ 1/17/2011 5:03:51 PM ~ Nicholas What I see now is what you said that would not happen. We are going
2:15:49 ~ 1/17/2011 5:04:32 PM ~ Shope In WYoming we don't have the population to produce to class we wanted.
2:16:23 ~ 1/17/2011 5:05:06 PM ~ Nicholas It was never our expectations to make up the difference between what the feds and what the state pays.
2:17:28 ~ 1/17/2011 5:06:11 PM ~ Shope It was the intent to
2:17:44 ~ 1/17/2011 5:06:27 PM ~ Meier WHat we altimatly look at the costs of this program compared to costs of kids who have not finished program. If your not going to spend this money, you need to be prepared to spend2 or 3 times this amount later.. If we need a mix from funds with A&I or school funds.
2:20:41 ~ 1/17/2011 5:09:23 PM ~ Nicholas When we funded the Girls School, we don't fund capital construction. RIch ard would you...
2:21:35 ~ 1/17/2011 5:10:18 PM ~ Cox We can do that.
2:21:53 ~ 1/17/2011 5:10:35 PM ~ Cox When the Hay study On July 1 you were in the XYZ band The market
2:23:03 ~ 1/17/2011 5:11:45 PM ~ Nicholas Are you saying they are compard to The other side of it wa that
2:24:10 ~ 1/17/2011 5:12:53 PM ~ Cox We will have the staff work on that.
2:24:31 ~ 1/17/2011 5:13:13 PM ~ Bon Flatern At one time there was not very many females.
2:25:04 ~ 1/17/2011 5:13:46 PM ~ Wright We looked at that and asked to females to go to Montana. There are not hard and fast requirements. It took a lot because the other states have a lot more population to chose from.
2:26:38 ~ 1/17/2011 5:15:21 PM ~ Wright That is Wright, some do not have a GED
2:27:02 ~ 1/17/2011 5:15:45 PM ~ Shope Page 15 Contract for 4 more people. Gov. denied approval of this request. The fiscal note does not require one penney of additional money Page 16 Contract for services to work at the VA. We need those Veteren
2:29:18 ~ 1/17/2011 5:18:00 PM ~ Von Vlateran Is that a typo.
2:29:37 ~ 1/17/2011 5:18:20 PM ~ Shope WE don't have any county or state employees working that
2:30:06 ~ 1/17/2011 5:18:49 PM ~ Shope Traveling Kiosk It was recomended to fund this. In B2, cost of $30,000 would be that costs
2:31:21 ~ 1/17/2011 5:20:04 PM ~ Nicholas Take a look at page 8 of the Budget. THis is the 9th priority of this budget..Expected priorities to be listed in order
2:32:33 ~ 1/17/2011 5:21:16 PM ~ Doug ShopeL 50,000 dollars to pay for services for a half-time employyee.. Evansville Cemetary,,Governor approved if it does not get doubled
2:33:16 ~ 1/17/2011 5:21:58 PM ~ Von Flatern: Why not?
2:33:22 ~ 1/17/2011 5:22:04 PM ~ Shope: Already have $50,000. Increase the position to full time..will come out in budget as $100,000 for the biennium Pg 25, Capital construction, Afton Armory, Incorrect statement: originally 2.8 million to renovate..not economically feasible to renovate..structural damage..foundation Governor's recommendation $125,000 to look for new property for armory..develop property in regard to utilities
2:35:35 ~ 1/17/2011 5:24:18 PM ~ Nicholas: What is fed/state match?
2:35:47 ~ 1/17/2011 5:24:30 PM ~ Shope: 25% state..State must provide the property, utilities need to be brought to a certain point.
2:36:21 ~ 1/17/2011 5:25:03 PM ~ Nicholas: existing budet sufficient to replace Afton facility or will you come back?
2:36:38 ~ 1/17/2011 5:25:21 PM ~ Shope: New facilities, two buildings, storage facility for bridges. So in request, 3rd ling 850,000 to build storage is at 100% state money Reconsider building storage facility on that property
2:37:34 ~ 1/17/2011 5:26:17 PM ~ Nicholas: Intention with old property?
2:37:47 ~ 1/17/2011 5:26:29 PM ~ Shope: Disposed of by Adjutant General..
2:38:09 ~ 1/17/2011 5:26:52 PM ~ Nicholas: should be able to offset dollars gained later by costs of new facility
2:38:27 ~ 1/17/2011 5:27:09 PM ~ Shope: Correct, building could be sold, money used to offset cost
2:38:40 ~ 1/17/2011 5:27:23 PM ~ Nicholas: Dollars to Adjutant General or reappropriation
2:38:55 ~ 1/17/2011 5:27:37 PM ~ Shope: Reappropriation is not required
2:39:08 ~ 1/17/2011 5:27:51 PM ~ Nicholas: Must specify capture of monies
2:39:18 ~ 1/17/2011 5:28:01 PM ~ Shope: Correct
2:39:29 ~ 1/17/2011 5:28:12 PM ~ Nicholas: turn around time of building
2:39:37 ~ 1/17/2011 5:28:19 PM ~ Shope: can deposit monies back into the General Fund
2:39:47 ~ 1/17/2011 5:28:30 PM ~ Nicholas: Intent to dispose of old facilities in other towns
2:40:01 ~ 1/17/2011 5:28:43 PM ~ Shope: Areas other than Cheyenne or Guersney will dispose of facility
2:40:19 ~ 1/17/2011 5:29:02 PM ~ Berger
2:40:23 ~ 1/17/2011 5:29:05 PM ~ General Wright: 7.8 million dollars to build new armory. Easy to say split is 25 state and 75 federal...timing is an issue..nothing to say Federal govt will build..work hard to get on five year plan At federal level, legislators can insert their state projects into our project..will take congressional effort to keep our project on the five year plan
2:42:07 ~ 1/17/2011 5:30:50 PM ~ Nicholas: little liklihood of money being spent in 2 years ..on five year plan now?
2:42:30 ~ 1/17/2011 5:31:12 PM ~ Wright: Not on five year plan yet..too far out
2:42:44 ~ 1/17/2011 5:31:27 PM ~ Nicholas other projects?
2:42:50 ~ 1/17/2011 5:31:33 PM ~ Wright: Last tab, page 16
2:43:01 ~ 1/17/2011 5:31:44 PM ~ Col. Mays: Chart outlines state and federal construction. Can see projects up to 2015 Beyond that are on long range forecast
2:43:50 ~ 1/17/2011 5:32:32 PM ~ Nicholas: green ..under construction?
2:44:02 ~ 1/17/2011 5:32:44 PM ~ Mays: Explained facilities..point in process..by year..
2:44:30 ~ 1/17/2011 5:33:12 PM ~ Nicholas: go through..
2:44:38 ~ 1/17/2011 5:33:21 PM ~ Mays: Field Maintenance Shop Cheyenne Readiness Center Urban Assault Course Live Fire Shoot House Regional Training Institute
2:45:19 ~ 1/17/2011 5:34:01 PM ~ Nicholas: green, when you expect to spend dollars or authorized.
2:45:45 ~ 1/17/2011 5:34:27 PM ~ Mays: Year of construction.. design dollars..
2:45:58 ~ 1/17/2011 5:34:41 PM ~ Nicholas:
2:46:09 ~ 1/17/2011 5:34:52 PM ~ Wright: on base maintenance facility colocated
2:46:24 ~ 1/17/2011 5:35:06 PM ~ Nicholas: blue are requests or cold storage building
2:46:39 ~ 1/17/2011 5:35:21 PM ~ Mays: Afton, Worland: Design and construction for remodeling Cody and Sheridan, remodeling.. same for all across top, order of priority..
2:47:10 ~ 1/17/2011 5:35:53 PM ~ Nicholas: all state funded?
2:47:22 ~ 1/17/2011 5:36:05 PM ~ Shope: Correct
2:47:28 ~ 1/17/2011 5:36:11 PM ~ Nicholas federal share cost of new construction?
2:47:40 ~ 1/17/2011 5:36:23 PM ~ Shope:: After 25 years, federal government no longer has interest
2:48:05 ~ 1/17/2011 5:36:48 PM ~ NIcholas: Reason for new buildings?
2:48:14 ~ 1/17/2011 5:36:56 PM ~ Shope: require more space
2:48:26 ~ 1/17/2011 5:37:09 PM ~ Nicholas: ?
2:48:31 ~ 1/17/2011 5:37:14 PM ~ Shope: do not expect federal dollars in our lifetime, need to renovate to make them usable
2:48:47 ~ 1/17/2011 5:37:30 PM ~ Berger: Explain afton
2:48:53 ~ 1/17/2011 5:37:36 PM ~ Shope: Afton is unique to other locations. It has significant damage. New facility needs to be built so governor recommended money to llok for land.. Laramie...will operate armory at current location until it reaches the five year plan will be 2nd largest readiness center
2:50:15 ~ 1/17/2011 5:38:57 PM ~ Berger: Equipment and room in armory
2:50:24 ~ 1/17/2011 5:39:06 PM ~ Wright: okay with governor's recommendation..no room at current location for expanding footprint..will get on five year plan as quickly as we can Problem: 14 million dollars of equipment sitting in deteroriating building..in outdoors so asking 733,000 to build cold storage building..buy land, build cold storage and get gears going for new armory
2:51:59 ~ 1/17/2011 5:40:42 PM ~ Nicholas: Real Estate: Possible to buy it and not get on five year plan cost per unit member part of five year planning
2:52:56 ~ 1/17/2011 5:41:38 PM ~ Wright: Infantry...will be engineer unit for a long time..just got brand new equipment
2:53:27 ~ 1/17/2011 5:42:10 PM ~ Nicholas: Paid for by federal dollars?
2:53:37 ~ 1/17/2011 5:42:20 PM ~ Wright: Brand new
2:53:43 ~ 1/17/2011 5:42:26 PM ~ Nicholas: no fed resources to cover storage
2:53:53 ~ 1/17/2011 5:42:36 PM ~ Wright: Correct...can not park bridge and equipment in building
2:54:17 ~ 1/17/2011 5:43:00 PM ~ Shope: dollar amount tab 14 Afton armory would be pushed
2:55:01 ~ 1/17/2011 5:43:44 PM ~ Wright: No question we can get it on five year plan..Question if federal legislators can get it across the finish line.. at least equipment out of way and new sight if funded
2:55:45 ~ 1/17/2011 5:44:28 PM ~ Shope: Worland armory Denial by governor...50,000 to explore options at new sight for new armory Have looked at sights, partner with Highway dept
2:56:28 ~ 1/17/2011 5:45:11 PM ~ Shope: Pg 33 Camp Guersney Training Location for all units, high priority for all developement Level 1, 2, 3, design only..not construction Could lead to future federal projects Utilities upgrade is significant
2:57:34 ~ 1/17/2011 5:46:17 PM ~ Nicholas: We may 1,2,3 Do we get reimbursed if cap con goes forward?
2:57:53 ~ 1/17/2011 5:46:35 PM ~ Shope: No
2:57:56 ~ 1/17/2011 5:46:39 PM ~ Nicholas: If you don't pay for it, it won't come
2:58:07 ~ 1/17/2011 5:46:50 PM ~ Shope: yes
2:58:12 ~ 1/17/2011 5:46:54 PM ~ Nicholas: Distinction
2:58:20 ~ 1/17/2011 5:47:02 PM ~ Shope: Asking for state govt to fund to make pitch ready to build by having utilites ready
2:58:42 ~ 1/17/2011 5:47:25 PM ~ Wright: Chart tracks man days at camp guersney
2:58:54 ~ 1/17/2011 5:47:37 PM ~ Shope: Tab 14, page 17 Man days: # of soldiers, airmen, marines Coming from all over the United States 4th Infantry Division discussions..Ft. Carson bought land south of post..environmentalists limited use to force on forces, no heavy equipment so Ft. Carson which is growing..frantically looking for training space..ORET.. finalist for 60 million dollar installation - ORET. can not accomodate that number at this point. Investing and having ready positions us for federal dollars
3:01:44 ~ 1/17/2011 5:50:27 PM ~ Nicholas: How do we know it is not positioning us to kick in 10% of every dollar or to ask for more dollars? Increase load and utilitzaton, are we creating environmental remediation situation that will belong to the state and not federal govt
3:02:44 ~ 1/17/2011 5:51:27 PM ~ Wright: Controlling the units using camp guernsey and the time Tryiing to leverage the dollars put into that facility
3:03:13 ~ 1/17/2011 5:51:56 PM ~ Nicholas: Live Fire, cost of remediation, time to re-evaluate?
3:03:28 ~ 1/17/2011 5:52:11 PM ~ Mays: The bottom line is the cost for remediation will remain with federal govt on those ranges.
3:03:51 ~ 1/17/2011 5:52:34 PM ~ Shope: Request recommended by state building commission and the governor Pg 7 - Highway Dept consultation..working into their shcedule 1 million plus request
3:05:05 ~ 1/17/2011 5:53:48 PM ~ Berger: Discussion on number of internments
3:05:19 ~ 1/17/2011 5:54:02 PM ~ Wright: Internments and services, more traffic
3:05:34 ~ 1/17/2011 5:54:17 PM ~ Shope: pg 41, unheated vehicle storage buildings, six facility due to bridge and rocket launchers Recommended by commission,
3:06:20 ~ 1/17/2011 5:55:03 PM ~ Wright: appropriate place to approve one
3:06:30 ~ 1/17/2011 5:55:12 PM ~ Shope Pg 45 Land Acquisition: Authority to spend remaining appropriation
3:06:54 ~ 1/17/2011 5:55:37 PM ~ Nicholas: Will we get acreage at lower cost per acre?
3:07:09 ~ 1/17/2011 5:55:52 PM ~ Shope: cost per acre has gone down
3:07:17 ~ 1/17/2011 5:55:59 PM ~ Nicholas: Give acreage purchases to Mr. Cathcart, executive session to talk about acreages..are dollars committed, land owner waiting, acreage price
3:07:48 ~ 1/17/2011 5:56:30 PM ~ Wright: Appraised value, not aggreement
3:08:08 ~ 1/17/2011 5:56:50 PM ~ Steward: map of previous purchase and land considering for purchase
3:08:24 ~ 1/17/2011 5:57:07 PM ~ Wright: Tab 16, 4th page from back Last big purchase is highlighted in yellow. ..explanation of boundaries red represents the end of the road..dilemma in answering..about 40 land owners inside that red.
3:10:03 ~ 1/17/2011 5:58:46 PM ~ Steward: Where is the location of what you are considering?
3:10:15 ~ 1/17/2011 5:58:57 PM ~ Wright: Executive session
3:10:25 ~ 1/17/2011 5:59:08 PM ~ Steward, not beyond red line?
3:10:34 ~ 1/17/2011 5:59:17 PM ~ Wright: Correct.