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      5 ~ 1/20/2011 12:48:02 PM ~ Nicholas:  Shut down at 6:15 tonight.. If do not finish tomorrow night, would have to come in Sat morning...

     46 ~ 1/20/2011 12:48:42 PM ~ Pedersen:  Committee of the Whole time in here? Nicholas:  Both houses have to schedule 2 to 3 bills per day next week....

   1:57 ~ 1/20/2011 12:49:53 PM ~ Cathcart:   Previous items: 1.  State superindentent Cindy Hill does not need the 5th floor of Hathaway

   2:42 ~ 1/20/2011 12:50:38 PM ~ Nicholas:  Are there people there? Cathcart:  Shuffling...issues in basement ..mold, Nicholas:  health, ventilation, did not find mold  changed? Cathcart:  lighting has not, space she wants to use is for IT stuff..suited for that..

   3:59 ~ 1/20/2011 12:51:55 PM ~ Cathcart:  Military budget:  Bridge across platte for road purchased by fed vets commission and given to the state..we own the easement issues... Map:  Private golf course water inlet, subdivision,  all accessed off the road we own...could put a gate where indicated..problem is it is state property..not agreeable with vets commission to turn over to the county

   5:52 ~ 1/20/2011 12:53:48 PM ~ Nicholas:  Bridge that is due east? Cathcart:  don't know

   6:17 ~ 1/20/2011 12:54:13 PM ~ Mays:  Bridge belongs to Exxon Nicholas:  good bridge.. Mays: do not know, have not checked it out Nicholas: looks close, would only need 1/4 mile access 1 million is a lot of money  can we find out?

   7:17 ~ 1/20/2011 12:55:13 PM ~ Mays: yes we can

   7:23 ~ 1/20/2011 12:55:19 PM ~ Von Flatern: thought process on this? Nicholas:  Platte river ..people putting resources in to bridges, expensive to have bridge to cemetary.. fed govt wants to pay 1 million for the bridge , convenience...explore the whole area..bridge will require continual maintenance.. could build road

   9:07 ~ 1/20/2011 12:57:04 PM ~ Bartlebort:  Funding for improvements, repairs or maint cuold be  paid by the fed govt.....unlikely to get other federal funds   ..agreement was to maintain the bridge and road Nicholas:  state did not, signed agreement Bartlebort:  Yes we did, implied task as a result of funding.. Nicholas:  Constitution prohibits making contracts like that

  10:41 ~ 1/20/2011 12:58:37 PM ~ Harshman:  Closest other access ...more to the west..Byron stock trail..

  11:31 ~ 1/20/2011 12:59:27 PM ~ Bartlebort:  Two track road used to be access road, dirt road...tried to coordinate other access without a bridge..early 1980's ..

  12:08 ~ 1/20/2011 1:00:04 PM ~ Harshman:  Where does the two track road go?

  12:23 ~ 1/20/2011 1:00:19 PM ~ Bartlebort:  county road, not sure..can get back with you

  12:43 ~ 1/20/2011 1:00:39 PM ~ Peterson:  Subdivisions on the other side of the river..bridge only goes to the cemetary so main access is probably south..bridge is not critical for subdivision

  13:21 ~ 1/20/2011 1:01:17 PM ~ Bartlebort:  Evansville attempted to negotiate the transfer to the city of Evansville..VA not for or against it..abandoned attempt last year..two subdivisions planned ..subdivision to the left of the map is fully developed subdivision... Nicholas:  Where is that? Bartlebort:  just the begins where the gate proposal is. City of Evansville made those road cuts illegally

  14:55 ~ 1/20/2011 1:02:51 PM ~ Berger:  Does subdivision have an easement to use our road?

  15:09 ~ 1/20/2011 1:03:05 PM ~ Bartlebort:  No they do not

  15:27 ~ 1/20/2011 1:03:23 PM ~ Cathcart: State Fair:  assistance with ventilation .....system not adequate, causes dust and condensation....put $ into it Nicholas:  Any performance contracts? Cathcart:  Design co. had engineering company that designed it, believe we are past warrantly, request denied by state bld commission and gov concurred

  17:02 ~ 1/20/2011 1:04:58 PM ~ Nicholas:  how long.. known problem CAthcart:  dont know

  17:17 ~ 1/20/2011 1:05:14 PM ~ Cathcart:  State Park fire suppresion system at Carissa mine...request several times...quite a bit of work..comfortable with amounts of money for this project..denied by commission, concurred

  18:07 ~ 1/20/2011 1:06:03 PM ~ Peterson:  Items on list that could be started if this committee put money toward project, phase it in? Cathcart:  would have to look at it...not a long duration project..

  18:55 ~ 1/20/2011 1:06:51 PM ~ Cathcart:  Next 4 are game and fish dept Wigwam fishing station....plan to resolve problem..upper spring well and lower spring well to change water source...approved by SBC and recommended by Gov and Mead concurs 5 units of ADA compliance comfort stations..good history...well known source...installed for 35000 per unit, request for 5..approved by SBC.. Nicholas CAthcart:  Two Public access areas....125,000 in GF   .. comfort stations, boat ramps... SBC approved, gov recommended, Mead concurred 38 mile of Elk fence, Game and Fish .. conservative on estimates...penciled out per mile, reasonable amount...SBC, Governor and Mead concurred.

  22:30 ~ 1/20/2011 1:10:27 PM ~ Wallis:  Can we pay for it out of Wildlife Trust Fund?

  22:46 ~ 1/20/2011 1:10:42 PM ~ Nicholas:  We can't do it but they could go to call Bob Budd and find out ..

  23:06 ~ 1/20/2011 1:11:02 PM ~ Cathcart:  DFS Boys School....two projects at girls...850,000 for level 3 funding for boys school..holding classes in housing units...bldg is not adequated for number of students

  23:58 ~ 1/20/2011 1:11:54 PM ~ Berger:  Conversation with director?  Numbers have gone down.. What is overall state plan?

  24:36 ~ 1/20/2011 1:12:32 PM ~ Cathcart:  ..can't answer...activity for both facilities fairly conservative for what they wanted.. Girls school phase 2 reduced by 3 million

  25:15 ~ 1/20/2011 1:13:11 PM ~ Berger:  Old buildings...keep putting money into them..future benefit.. Nicholas:  Talk to Senator Schiffer

  25:44 ~ 1/20/2011 1:13:40 PM ~ Cathcart:  Design money to build a new classroom building. Wyoming Community College Item:  Spending Authority Request...Casper early childhood learning center University of Wyoming and Casper College Joint Facility: 10 million ...revenue bonds Nicholas: Cathcart:  2.6 million GF for level 3 design work for renovation of UW fine arts center. Level 3 design, will be a level 3 construction request the next year..revenue bonds in the amount of 33 million to fund construction

  27:47 ~ 1/20/2011 1:15:43 PM ~ Cathcart:  UW - Community College Joint Facility .. 750,000 for UW's share of level 1 and level 2 No action by SBC, not action by Governor, Mead concurred. UW --came up late..50 million of AML money...recommended to proceed.. Gov. Freudenthal's footnote:  1/3 of the 1/2 % .........diverted to fund buidling...

  29:46 ~ 1/20/2011 1:17:42 PM ~ Meier:  50 million much planning and design Cathcart: Number of opportunity...not more than they need to develop what they are proposing..not numbers on it..master plan for facility Nicholas:  Chris Boswell

  30:45 ~ 1/20/2011 1:18:42 PM ~ Chris Boswell:  Governor Mead has recommended a slight change..reduction of 3.5 million, dedication of that to operations...Gov. Freudenthal's profile..50 million built in..have received authority for that.. AML funding..always possibility that unspent funding will be withdrawn by legislative action Dollar figure developed by University...

  32:48 ~ 1/20/2011 1:20:44 PM ~ Von Flatern:  STEM building ...

  33:00 ~ 1/20/2011 1:20:56 PM ~ Christ 50 million construction..15 million renovation

  33:15 ~ 1/20/2011 1:21:11 PM ~ Nicholas:  50 million, assuming approval,,covers lab equipment? Chris: do not know Nicholas:  ..use of these funds for equipment Chris:

  33:51 ~ 1/20/2011 1:21:48 PM ~ Cathcart:  lab equipment ok if profiled in original project Next projectL  Parent Child Program at Women's prison...originally 40+ thousand, want to renovate existing facility at Wyoming Women's center.... SBC approved, Governor Freudenthatl added 1.2 million to do planning and complete the project. SBC meeting - testimony was compelling Gov. Mead denied request. Next Project:  Dept of Corrections, Level 1 and Level 2 to finish construction of housing units included as a change order,,,,approved that amount.. this request is asking for level 1 aand level 2 to consider finishing these units..have already done level 3 .. Do you want to spend money to finish units...approximately 10 million to do this..

  37:14 ~ 1/20/2011 1:25:10 PM ~ Nicholas:  argument to use current construction dollars...delay..code change...losing benefit of core and shell erected

  37:42 ~ 1/20/2011 1:25:38 PM ~ Cathcart: doubt. code changes...could be merit in taking advantage of constructin economy today...projects under budget...good mgt and current climate....If you have money and want to build, now is a good predictions of construction economy going back up..

  38:49 ~ 1/20/2011 1:26:45 PM ~ Nicholas:  Have depreciation for unused space?

  39:01 ~ 1/20/2011 1:26:58 PM ~ Cathcart:  Concludes Cap Con

  39:12 ~ 1/20/2011 1:27:09 PM ~ Nicholas:  Guaranteed maxium price.. circulated ..language..  If you are going to edit, send me the changes.  The only feedback we haven't gotten is UW

  41:01 ~ 1/20/2011 1:28:57 PM ~ Cathcart  THe Dept. of Corrections    Honor Farm Canteen   Everything is doable if we can get a waiver for the 70% local contractor if local contractors are not available

  42:45 ~ 1/20/2011 1:30:41 PM ~ Meier  What are the requirements for local employment

  43:14 ~ 1/20/2011 1:31:10 PM ~ Cathcart  You need people in stages.  The requirement is 100% Wyoming residents.  You have to call the local unemployment office to see if there is someone that is qualified to do the work.    There is a Workforce Service that serves all communities in Wyoming

  46:03 ~ 1/20/2011 1:33:59 PM ~ Nicholas  We will cut Chris loose.  We will look at the Golden Rod.  If you have any changes, give them to Chris

  47:47 ~ 1/20/2011 1:35:43 PM ~ Mai  What this reflects what you got last week except it now reflects the Gov's Recomendation.  Page 6  We never did get a letter on this.  Last page, 4th line up from the bottom.  There are a couple of odd things about the Gov. Rec. this time.  1st  money form Water Account 3 to Water Account 4.

  50:14 ~ 1/20/2011 1:38:10 PM ~ Steward  Senate FIle 36  Any available surplus fund should

  51:01 ~ 1/20/2011 1:38:57 PM ~ Mie   13.4 mill for data center  In our opinion, that money should have be reverted   We didn't intend that..  LSS, that money has reverted.     This is where it gets a little weird

  53:22 ~ 1/20/2011 1:41:19 PM ~ Nicholas  We will spend the 12mill.  You projile your reversions.  I think that is the rest of the odd pieces.

  54:35 ~ 1/20/2011 1:42:31 PM ~ Meier   Cathcart had 30 mill reversions

  54:55 ~ 1/20/2011 1:42:51 PM ~ Nicholas  They haven't reverted yet.  Page 1  7th number down.  Bear in mind, larger piece on Page 5   222 plus starting with the 6th number down.  To move this along We will come back  300 is the big ticket items  Support for city towns and county in encrements of  ten Millions of dollars

  59:36 ~ 1/20/2011 1:47:32 PM ~ Mie  Is everyone comfortable with sales and use tax.

1:00:21 ~ 1/20/2011 1:48:17 PM ~ Nicholas  Once that amount is out, then we have to divvy it out.  To the extent we can use the existing budget.  It's a good compromise

1:02:42 ~ 1/20/2011 1:50:38 PM ~ Nicholas We will have it tonight so you can digest it tonight    Do we have a list of Bills with Appropriations on them.  Alex has doing a lot of research about sales and use tax.  You can see that some of more abbundant oil and gas incomes have experianced larger ups and downs.

1:06:22 ~ 1/20/2011 1:54:18 PM ~ Nicholas   We have looked at assessed valutation.

1:07:03 ~ 1/20/2011 1:55:00 PM ~ Mie  Yes, we do it every year.  Compared to sales and use tax,  I feel

1:07:43 ~ 1/20/2011 1:55:39 PM ~ Nicholas We will be lucky to get that  A lot of this is just proxy and

1:08:16 ~ 1/20/2011 1:56:12 PM ~ Mie   The second page shows ..... 2009 were the hgihpoints    It consists of actual information a interpulated data.  Thats our background data

1:10:00 ~ 1/20/2011 1:57:56 PM ~ Mie  Can you get the average per capita   Mr. Chairman  One other area of weirdness.  We have no census..  I think it reperences the 2000 data.

1:11:55 ~ 1/20/2011 1:59:51 PM ~ Nicholas  You have a lot relation

1:12:18 ~ 1/20/2011 2:00:14 PM ~ Harshman  Is there more current data available.

1:12:54 ~ 1/20/2011 2:00:51 PM ~ Nicholas   Adjustments are based tax returnds.  Every year it changes.  I stand corrected, it does reflect

1:14:32 ~ 1/20/2011 2:02:29 PM ~ Mie   Any the statutes refer and actural censues

1:15:17 ~ 1/20/2011 2:03:13 PM ~ Nicholas  Some said that we are going to use the most current census.

1:16:28 ~ 1/20/2011 2:04:25 PM ~ Mie   What does this mean to my town or

1:16:53 ~ 1/20/2011 2:04:50 PM ~ Nicholas  Lets bring some of the experts.  We will break, come back after adjournment and then to to 6:15.