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      0 ~ 1/21/2011 1:05:33 PM ~ Budget Markup JAC Index 01-21-11  pm1

      8 ~ 1/21/2011 1:05:41 PM ~ Berger:  College Commission State Aid..Governor denied that amount, recommended ... Governor rec approved

     44 ~ 1/21/2011 1:06:17 PM ~ Berger:  Unit 3001 Public Television  Restore the balance  Harshman:  What does retore the balance mean?    Bill:  Did not meet the match in time so it reverted..asked for same amount and more time  Berger: go ahead...  Nicholas:  Does 500 go staight into account or does it have to be matched first?  Bill:  Does not revert until 2013, attorney would have issue with footnote for that length of time..  Nicholas:  Usually sits in auditors acct..  Bill:  Should sit with the treasurer until it is matched...footnote language is not specific..took it as requiring match.  Cox:  pg 18 ..if it gets approved goes over to....  Nicholas:  Where is money put for investment?  If it was endowment match account, it would  have been more clear..  Bill: put into line 057 in 2008 ..added the footnote....different from set up in statute...Footnote A....funds from WPTV  to a ...matching funds account..match shall be payed by the tresurer of the .....anytime funds are 10,000 or more...  Nicholas:  which budget  Bill:  2008  Nicholas:  Created by budget so account expires at the end of the budget...  Bill:  Chunk in treasurer's office is gone  Nicholas

   7:35 ~ 1/21/2011 1:13:09 PM ~ Von Flatern:  Language in Gov's footnote...pursuant to 2008 footnote..does that handle it..  Nicholas:  not appropriate to take a budget and say we are going to handle it... Motion:  To clairfy this:  adopt the prior language..instead of 2014.. Enact endowment match account.. If they want a permanent need to bring language by Wed next week or next budget.. ...could create an account but this is a better way  Von Flatern:  ..?  Nicholas:  revert at end of 2012, unless reappropriated or want an endowment that goes beyond the term of the budget..should do like others..  Berger:  Gov' rec  Meier:  Reverted amount ..adopted as denial of gov's rec approval of the  Nicholas:  No..would hve to approve both...1.5 if both ...  Meier:  specific not general..  Nicholas:  g

  11:37 ~ 1/21/2011 1:17:10 PM ~ Bill:  Gov's rec versus 1 million denail....  Nicholas:  Qualifies both   Meier:  and if  Nicholas:  do not   Bill:  Two requests  Pg 15 and 16  He denied the 1 million.  Berger: Unit 301 pg 16 ..HD equipment for the truck..412,000 requested approved the whole thing  rest is cap con..early childhood center motion to close Agency 57 approved

  13:39 ~ 1/21/2011 1:19:13 PM ~ Berger:  On page 13 it has a breakdown of the budget

  15:41 ~ 1/21/2011 1:21:15 PM ~ Meier  I think in context of the dollar compared to the ureo

  16:17 ~ 1/21/2011 1:21:51 PM ~ Edmonds  Would be???

  16:32 ~ 1/21/2011 1:22:05 PM ~ Von Flatern  I'm not sure.  We are taking out two new domestic markets

  17:02 ~ 1/21/2011 1:22:35 PM ~ Berger They wnated to meter their saturation.  It has been an effective marketing tool

  18:11 ~ 1/21/2011 1:23:45 PM ~ Nichols  It is a real problem to get from Seattle to Cheyenne.

  18:47 ~ 1/21/2011 1:24:20 PM ~ Berger  Go to handout #??  It has some interesting

  19:18 ~ 1/21/2011 1:24:51 PM ~ Wallis  I think we need to come back and take a look at the 3 mill.

  20:04 ~ 1/21/2011 1:25:37 PM ~ Von Flatern  I would amend

  20:38 ~ 1/21/2011 1:26:11 PM ~ Nicholas  Reduce it from 1.5 to $750,000

  21:29 ~ 1/21/2011 1:27:02 PM ~ Harshman  Page 10 carring over to page 11.  There is curre

  22:49 ~ 1/21/2011 1:28:22 PM ~ Nicholas  I'll make a motion that we break it in half

  23:18 ~ 1/21/2011 1:28:51 PM ~ Harshman   Page 11  Increase overall repeat regional markets  Delete intirally.  It's a supplemental budget  I want to hear more next budget go around.  The ambient media seems like it is a different market

  25:54 ~ 1/21/2011 1:31:27 PM ~ Nicholas   Take a look at page 16  We have been putting a lot into this agency year after year.  They can squeeze out $600,000 from thier budget.  Clarifying all the changes

  27:45 ~ 1/21/2011 1:33:19 PM ~ Berger  Illiminage $125,000 for foreign funding

  28:19 ~ 1/21/2011 1:33:52 PM ~ Harshman  The redesign of the website  This is to redo their website

  29:21 ~ 1/21/2011 1:34:55 PM ~ Wallis  This is a very large budget

  29:52 ~ 1/21/2011 1:35:26 PM ~ Mai  Were in a little doubt  about that first cut.

  31:07 ~ 1/21/2011 1:36:40 PM ~ Dawn  $1,550,000

  31:28 ~ 1/21/2011 1:37:01 PM ~ Mai  There is a statement that this is a one time request.

  32:09 ~ 1/21/2011 1:37:42 PM ~ Berger  Agency 67  Bottom of Page 16

  32:42 ~ 1/21/2011 1:38:15 PM ~ Nicholas   The gov. requests that we pull this out.  In some sense we could do that.  I would like for us to discuss this

  33:59 ~ 1/21/2011 1:39:32 PM ~ Mai  There issue is that all state agencies are treated the same as others.   If its available use that first.  UW's position is that everything is a block grant.

  35:28 ~ 1/21/2011 1:41:01 PM ~ Nicholas   It would be unit 1601

  35:45 ~ 1/21/2011 1:41:18 PM ~ Cox   The budget dividsion is comfortable with that proposal.

  36:11 ~ 1/21/2011 1:41:45 PM ~ Nicholas YOu  would have to transfer it....6707  would require

  37:01 ~ 1/21/2011 1:42:34 PM ~ Nicholas  Do we want to move those monies out and make insurance payments in a different series

  38:42 ~ 1/21/2011 1:44:16 PM ~ Mai  I think you can take care of this by footnoting it at the bottom of the bill.

  39:40 ~ 1/21/2011 1:45:13 PM ~ Nicholas  We do work within

  40:05 ~ 1/21/2011 1:45:38 PM ~ Mai   Your are exacitly right  WE just put an line item for that cost

  41:18 ~ 1/21/2011 1:46:51 PM ~ Harshman   Are they part of Hay group study.  Salary and benefits are part of teh block prouj

  42:47 ~ 1/21/2011 1:48:20 PM ~ Nicholas  We have been doing this for all other agencies   1/5   WE give them money in increaxsse the  There is a be     If they don't take their

  45:29 ~ 1/21/2011 1:51:03 PM ~ Nicholas  If we gave enough

  46:24 ~ 1/21/2011 1:51:57 PM ~ Edmonds  Is the money right

  46:53 ~ 1/21/2011 1:52:26 PM ~ Nicholas   What is the baseline?

  47:36 ~ 1/21/2011 1:53:09 PM ~ Cox  Gov.

  48:10 ~ 1/21/2011 1:53:43 PM ~ Nicholas  Right now is   It is in the health insurance

  49:08 ~ 1/21/2011 1:54:41 PM ~ Berger  We will take an example.

  51:17 ~ 1/21/2011 1:56:51 PM ~ Mai  The very simple solution is to put a footnote on it.  That is something the budget people do.  We could put in a Section 300 for all angences

  52:40 ~ 1/21/2011 1:58:13 PM ~ Nicholas  The state of Wyoming pays for retirees unused vacation and sick leave  If you have a 35 year employee, the way the      The substantial amount to that fund is   We will do baby steps here.  How does that sound?

  56:02 ~ 1/21/2011 2:01:36 PM ~ Mai  Put a footnote that you can pay 100 series, can't use it for non-100 serces .

  57:33 ~ 1/21/2011 2:03:06 PM ~ Wallis   I'm worried about that unfunded liablity

  58:12 ~ 1/21/2011 2:03:45 PM ~ Nicholas  Its a benefit that exists.  When you tell an employee tat he has $40,000 he feels that he will be paying taxes.  Small agencies cannot afford to live with that.  There is no benefit of being  healthy.  If you change it, it has consequences.

1:02:25 ~ 1/21/2011 2:07:58 PM ~ Pedersen   One of the things fro new employees would     still honoring that contract.

1:03:46 ~ 1/21/2011 2:09:19 PM ~ Nicholas  I think in the end is when you never look at it

1:04:25 ~ 1/21/2011 2:09:58 PM ~ Berger   Take a quick break.  5 min.

1:05:22 ~ 1/21/2011 2:27:29 PM ~ Berger:  Finished the insurance Priority 2 ..State vet lab equipmnet  318,000+  Gov's rec  -   Pg 21:

1:06:31 ~ 1/21/2011 2:28:39 PM ~ Berger:  pg 21 Library req..Gov's rec cut int half  Harshman  3.6 down to 1.8....Does 1.8 get us into the Great Western Library  Berger:  No budget  Harshman:  What is point?  Von Flatern: time  Pedersen:  Volume..purchase more volumes  Wallis:  My notes indicate that even when cut in half it is higher than it has ever benn  Nicholas: Like previous item voted on..Senior Citizen .. Compromise at 1 million...add 1 million..come back at have 3 million...sounds like 1 million but it is bienniulized  ...7.2 million...if asked for 3.6 at beginning it would hve been 7.2 ...they need 7.2 million....1.8 gets you 3.6 so if they want to get  Must remember bienium...If you think you are cutting it in half, you are not If you want to get to full amount..use 3.6 and that will put you at the 7.2 I am okay with the gov's is 7.2 per biennium ...if we give 1.8 they would need to come back..  Berger:  ..  Meier:  Pariatlly agree.. do not have to spend that much to be bienniumized..  Berger:  thought it ws more...  Meier:  This will get them into WILLA...need maintenace money 4 or 5 million on ... 3.6 gets in the door...  Berger: wanted ..certification...  Meier:  ....  Berger...

1:15:03 ~ 1/21/2011 2:37:10 PM ~ Berger:  any further discussion... Gov rec motion carried 3.6 no discussion ... Motion is to increase it to the original 3.6 Failed..

1:16:04 ~ 1/21/2011 2:38:11 PM ~ Berger:  Priority 1 for energy school resources.. skip AML

1:16:24 ~ 1/21/2011 2:38:31 PM ~ Berger: stipends?    Bill:  all the rest is AML  Von Flatern:  8001 is bonds, casper ,uw is cap con...  Berger:  Dept 67 closed

1:17:28 ~ 1/21/2011 2:39:35 PM ~ Berger :  Dept of Corrections Priorities page 8 Unit 1031..funding for mgt program...50,000 Gov rec   Unit 4022 ..216,323  Gov rec. approved  Unit ..Wyo State Penitary..Utility Gov Rec carried  Unit 9011 -  Salary, overtime pay, shift. Gov. Rec 2.5 million Motion carried  Unit 9022  Harshman:  Time out..

1:19:36 ~ 1/21/2011 2:41:43 PM ~'s number 1 priority..73 vacant positions...720 bed capacity ..operating at 620

1:20:24 ~ 1/21/2011 2:42:31 PM ~ Berger: Unit 9022  Torrington ..shortfall Gov  rec    Von Flatern: new facility costing more than old facility, no detail,,utility provider  Pedersen:  Increase ..based on utility provider's increase...844 moved forward  Berger: Clarification..under 1 + million ...language is 877,000 and hold the rest off  Bill:  If you put the whole amt in there, budget office must approve above the ....  Meier: Language consistent with other agencies so footnote should be extended to other bills  Von Flatern:  Language is consisten  Berger: Gov rec..motion carried

1:23:38 ~ 1/21/2011 2:45:46 PM ~ Berger:   Close 80 .. motion carried

1:24:05 ~ 1/21/2011 2:46:12 PM ~ Berger:  County Attorneys 584,200 dollar request... Gov rec:  motion carried  close dept 160 ..motion carried  Steward:  What number did we approve...  Berger:  584,000

1:25:11 ~ 1/21/2011 2:47:18 PM ~ Berger:  Board of equalization Unit 101 on pag 10 and 11..conversion from 100 series to 200 series.. Gov rec: motion carried  Close out 211..motion carried

1:25:53 ~ 1/21/2011 2:48:00 PM ~ Berger:  Misc  Bill:  Courts now.. in small hand book  Bill:  S

1:26:51 ~ 1/21/2011 2:48:58 PM ~ Berger:  Judicial branch Unit 101 ..Professional fees..roving clerk..efficiency in court.. 80,000  Nicholas:  Time out..  Wallis: Footnote....holding the position  Berger:  DC * .. District clerks..  Nicholas; adds up fast..would go with DC recommendation  Motion carried  DC 15  District 1B   Motion carried  DC 21...conf rec  Motion carried  Closes Judicial Branch 101

1:30:15 ~ 1/21/2011 2:52:22 PM ~ Berger:  order, take care of 27  Nicholas: Motion to fund all of pg 10..only change on that part of motion is Casper Facility..aggregate all 3 with one number, add in planning for ..  Motion  Harshman:  Aggregate all 3...talkedto director of school faciilties..commission will work it out witth local school board..  Berger:  aggregate .ine 46, 47 and 48 ..comes up to 84 million  Harshman:  Yes  Berger: figure for plannign  Von Flatern:  question..aggregating 3 can move money to remodel..  Nicholas:  package deal  Harshman:  3 design groups..individual ..process.. final design.. FCC number around 115 million, appropriated 14.6 or so last year...low cost of sq ft..will revert what is not spend..built to commission guideline  Berger:  Planning figure  Harshman:  Handout:  When we appropriate 200 or 300 a biennium...doesn't get spent all at once..average.. 20 million a month....planning.. not an entitlement from the state Pg 11 list....Handout 27 for agency 11  Harshman:  Planning money....  Meier:  thought ...  Nicholas:  Second part

1:36:57 ~ 1/21/2011 2:59:05 PM ~ Harshman:  pg 11.....Line in order .2 and 3  9, 11, 15,  15 - 25... About 500,000 for planning and the commission will control..state it is used for planning ..not for design money  Nicholas:  500,00 for planning for projects listed above  Edmonds:  Is entire motion the 61.9 up to 180 million plus the 500,000?  Harshman:  aggregate 25,000 per project   Meier:  language...beat up going into the next year...  Matt:  Looking at list, I would recommend funding for projects 15 - 25..not all these are ..which will be construction projects, could be just roof or HVAC system..  Nicholas:  500,000 for 15 - room working out  Berger:  Number ..  Harshman:  Remedys  Berger:  2,3,9 not included  Matt:  #2 does not know what needs to do #3 is a school an enrollment flucation..another school district..don't know appropraiate remedy # 9 -- #11..remedy is a component level fixed by this legislature last year

1:42:55 ~ 1/21/2011 3:05:02 PM ~ Berger:  The 500,000   Nicholas:  Where does that get us and how far?  Harshman: Process with stakeholders... Next the design phase...enough stuff to be shovel ready in 12 .. will fund more stuff next year..needs index..done in past..not a certain amount for each school.. give commission flexibility  Matt:  by end of July.. if appropriate money will have select committee meeting  Nicholas:

1:46:03 ~ 1/21/2011 3:08:10 PM ~ Berger  Up to $500,000  All in favor  Motion Carried

1:46:55 ~ 1/21/2011 3:09:02 PM ~ Harshman  In the previous years we just gave a block grant.  Now we will have an item by item grant.   We had to pay a little mroe.  My idea is to have a line item for property acquisitionl.

1:48:58 ~ 1/21/2011 3:11:05 PM ~ Nicholas   Do you need 5?  How about 2 million

1:49:48 ~ 1/21/2011 3:11:55 PM ~ Harshman  The commission has done a good job but if you want they Gov. to sign off, that's fine.

1:50:42 ~ 1/21/2011 3:12:49 PM ~ Nicholas   When we adopt the 300,  In that case you want to carry forward the cationary language.  Is that what you had in mind

1:52:18 ~ 1/21/2011 3:14:25 PM ~ Harshman  That's right.   We have lots of

1:52:49 ~ 1/21/2011 3:14:56 PM ~ Nicholas   No funds shall be committed shall not be committed whithout the permision  of the JAC

1:53:31 ~ 1/21/2011 3:15:38 PM ~ Berger

1:53:44 ~ 1/21/2011 3:15:51 PM ~ Merier   I'm just tryign to try to track that with, this is 403 The dmo  There is some modualrs,

1:55:18 ~ 1/21/2011 3:17:25 PM ~ Berger   Unit 501

1:55:38 ~ 1/21/2011 3:17:45 PM ~ Matt  They asked of 12.5 mill and then zeroed it out.  Be providing   That is just a

1:56:44 ~ 1/21/2011 3:18:51 PM ~ Harshman  The discuscion was that the  Director was good with that.

1:57:33 ~ 1/21/2011 3:19:41 PM ~ Matt   Madam Chair,  THe take wi   It depends on the total number of surdents in the building

1:58:52 ~ 1/21/2011 3:20:59 PM ~ Berger  Close Agency 27  We should thank Harshman for a summer of reorganization.  Agency 67  Handout #24  Page 21  Attachment A  Appendix B  is the 2011 AML Funding  Appendix A  Passed  Appendix B

2:05:23 ~ 1/21/2011 3:27:31 PM ~ Von Flatern

2:05:41 ~ 1/21/2011 3:27:48 PM ~ Edmonds   I have High Plains

2:05:59 ~ 1/21/2011 3:28:07 PM ~ Nicholas   ii & iv  Delete thse and inseart to be applied to makison well development well account.  I will acturally be a reinbusment.

2:07:24 ~ 1/21/2011 3:29:31 PM ~ Mai   The way  I it, create teh money, spend teh monies,  Ge re-inbursed.

2:08:38 ~ 1/21/2011 3:30:45 PM ~ Nicholas  We have call  Did we crate any problems?

2:09:48 ~ 1/21/2011 3:31:55 PM ~ Meier   I don't think the approval is there

2:10:08 ~ 1/21/2011 3:32:15 PM ~ Nicholas  If the total is say 35 mill   Then the mones are allication

2:11:22 ~ 1/21/2011 3:33:29 PM ~ Nicholas  You can add in to the langurage it is the rsult of energy  impact

2:12:32 ~ 1/21/2011 3:34:39 PM ~ Steward   I remember some remarks from the governor.

2:12:52 ~ 1/21/2011 3:34:59 PM ~ Von Flattern  The county and city signed it about 8 weeks ago.  The mayor signed    There is money for water projects.

2:14:16 ~ 1/21/2011 3:36:23 PM ~ Nicholas  Lets use the word "regional" water supply

2:14:53 ~ 1/21/2011 3:37:00 PM ~ Von Flatern   Other

2:15:20 ~ 1/21/2011 3:37:27 PM ~ Nicholas  I like to call it

2:15:40 ~ 1/21/2011 3:37:47 PM ~ Wallis there has to be other big projects coming down the line..  Should we establish a permenant fund..

2:17:01 ~ 1/21/2011 3:39:08 PM ~ Harshman  I supported the water project    Our biggest city will be Gillettee  If you want to support that town.  This just furthers  One time in the history

2:19:58 ~ 1/21/2011 3:42:05 PM ~ Berger Call for the question.  5 min break

2:20:37 ~ 1/21/2011 4:31:21 PM ~ Berger:  Appendix B..go back .isolate (1)..STEM building ,then do the rest of the appendix in one motion  Nicholas:  Motion  Wallis:  Issue of including the back up funding here.  Nicholas:  Going to  move we do not have back up funding  Berger:  Motion carried

2:22:02 ~ 1/21/2011 4:32:46 PM ~ Berger:  Typical language  Nicholas:  ( 1 ) - ..  are we rewriting the whole amendment  Bill:  subparagraph 3..50.1 million DEQ Will ...  Berger:  energy Science graduate stipends  Bill:  Don't we need to deal with (3) the 1+ millino  Motion:  gov rec  Motion carried

2:23:48 ~ 1/21/2011 4:34:32 PM ~ Berger (5) .. Gov's rec   Meier:  Is there a report that this is working?  Berger:  Motion Motion carried  Bill:  E - submittal proposal F _ may need to work on a little bit..substitution language..substitute block grant money  Nicholas:  When finished might want to talk about swapping the STEM building with something else...told can't do local contracting because of AML money  Bill:  d 2 and 4..just diverted that money to the water project in campbell county  Berger:  Agreement Move to conform  E and F  Nicholas:  Move  Motion carried  Berger: <Motion carried

2:26:44 ~ 1/21/2011 4:37:28 PM ~ Appendix C Gov rec..motion carried..  Nicholas:  Want to address sale proceeds from Poplar faciilty  Berger: 2 million appraisal  Nicholas:  No part of proceeds from Polar facility shall be expended without legislative approval  Berger: Motion  "Approved"

2:28:09 ~ 1/21/2011 4:38:53 PM ~ Berger:  Appendix D  Gov rec carried

2:28:21 ~ 1/21/2011 4:39:05 PM ~ Berger:  Endowment  Nicholas:  Gov rec  $35..  Edmond:  priorty list, endowments, athletics, faciilties  Bill:  Gov letter 1, second page, last bullet point..  Berger: With all the trusts..  Berger:  Do all the trusts at the same time when we go through the Gov letter  Nicholas:  Think that takes care of UW except endowment

2:31:24 ~ 1/21/2011 4:42:07 PM ~ Von Flatern:  ARe all endowments in the original message in the book..dec 13 date..last bullet point...  Nicholas:  Where is Harshman?

2:32:45 ~ 1/21/2011 4:43:29 PM ~ Berger:  Cap con at the back of the budget book  Nicholas:  Unit funding going to   Berger: pg 11 and 12..  Nicholas: Pioneer Safeway bldg...Gov said no but there is demolition dollars  Berger: yes  Nicholas:  Gov rec  Berger: Motion carried  Nicholas:  Agency request to fill out building with two agencies Move to take that agency request and the funding that went with it and move it to the Hathway 5th floor renovation..  Edmonds:  Who  Berger:  Community college commission , public defenders moved over there  Nicholas:  appro smae sq ft  Berger: Motion carried  close 8001

2:35:35 ~ 1/21/2011 4:46:18 PM ~ Berger 8101   Gov rec Motion carried   close 8101

2:35:57 ~ 1/21/2011 4:46:41 PM ~ Berger 8201  5% contingency  Nicholas: move Gov rec .. a lot of money  Berger:  pg 17 and 18...  Nicholas:  Total 7.1   Gov rec carried  close out 8201

2:36:41 ~ 1/21/2011 4:47:24 PM ~ Berger 8301 Gov rec Motion carried close 8301

2:36:55 ~ 1/21/2011 4:47:39 PM ~ Berger:  8001 afton amromry Gov rec motion carried  close out 8001  8101  gov rec carried closed out  Guernsey Gov rec  motion caried  close unti 8101

2:38:00 ~ 1/21/2011 4:48:44 PM ~ Berger: 8301 - Veteran Cemetary Road gov rec motion carried closed 8301

2:38:42 ~ 1/21/2011 4:49:26 PM ~ Berger:  8401 unit Gov rec  Meier: Ask to amend to $733,475  ..hydraulic cylinders out in the open..will spend more on rehabiliatation..  Nicholas:  Why are we spending our dollars to preserve federal assets?  Maintenance comes out of federal dollars...  Von Flatern:  agree with Meier--equipment. Would the money cover facility neededto be bult  Meier: expressly needed the money  Berger: two cold storage units for large equiopment  Nicholas:  Federal mission and state mission.  We fund state..Federal equipment..should not spend state funds for federal  Von Flatern:  Assessment conducted in 06..high mobiity rocket systems...bridge systems in not see Afton in here  Peterson:  Agree ..get equip inside.. appropriated money for cold storage then buy land elsewhere  Meier:  build on new land aquired.. Withdrew amendment  Berger:  Gov rec 1 cold storage facility new land Motion fails  Gov rec Motion opposed  Closed 8401  Berger:

2:43:53 ~ 1/21/2011 4:54:37 PM ~ Berger: 8501 unit Land acquisition ..up to 1+ million  Meier:  talked to General ..going to get top priority ..will have info before we hit the floor..  Nicholas:  Dollars ... Approve...same language as previously assigned..A& I will manage the acquisition so as to prevent donor ownership  Berger:  Motion carried  Gov rec as amended Motion carries closes 8501

2:45:53 ~ 1/21/2011 4:56:37 PM ~ Berger:  Agriculture  Livestock Pavilion  Meier: Include 33,400 ..deteroriation of building..  need ventilation or will  have major problems  Nicholas:  Move the Attorney General further investigate the issue of third party recovery for warranty issues  Motion carried  Gov rec as amended  Close out

2:47:56 ~ 1/21/2011 4:58:40 PM ~ BergerL: unit 8101   Gov rec motion carried close 8101

2:48:15 ~ 1/21/2011 4:58:59 PM ~ BergerL  Game and Fish unit 8101 Gov rec Motion carried close out 8101

2:48:35 ~ 1/21/2011 4:59:18 PM ~ Berger:  GF  8201 gov rec.   motion to close closed  Unit 8301 ..  Nicholas:  Donation and then asked to spend money...if going to secure grants and gifts should secure donations for improvements  Berger:  Third party involved in all of this  Meier:  TAke the 70000 out for two comort stations..have money for ..  Berger:  Amendment Motion carried  Gov rec as amemded Motion carried Unit closed  Unit 8401 Gov rec motion carried  close out 8401  Unit 8201 Boys school  Nicholas: Questions..  Berger.. Gov rec motion carried  Meier:  too much money for a facilities for 900,000 new classroom for 850, 000  Harshman:  Different than cap con..level 3 is construction drawings and biddings..does seem like al :  Meier .. not on mike  Peterson:  lot of sw footage  Gov rec carried  close out 8201

2:52:44 ~ 1/21/2011 5:03:27 PM ~ Berger:  Community College Unit 8601 Gov rec carried 8601 closed  Unit 8001  UW and Casper College  Bill: did that in appendix C of University handout  Unit 8101   Gov rec carried closed  Unit  uw joint recommendation .. Offer amendment to add back in the 300,000 for the planning .. Motion carries  Gov rec as amended motion cariied  8201 closed

2:54:43 ~ 1/21/2011 5:05:27 PM ~ Berger:  Dept of Corrections

2:56:06 ~ 1/21/2011 5:06:49 PM ~ Wallis  Handout # 67  The thing that jumped out at me the in Nebr.  50% or restitatism where thos who go through the program was only15%.  Women that qualify would be discharged in 18 months.

2:58:22 ~ 1/21/2011 5:09:06 PM ~ Edmonds  While I don't disagree, I think we have the cart before the horse.

2:59:04 ~ 1/21/2011 5:09:48 PM ~ Esquebel   Its really a great thing to do.

2:59:44 ~ 1/21/2011 5:10:27 PM ~ Nicholas  These are costodial parents

3:00:11 ~ 1/21/2011 5:10:55 PM ~ Wallis  Two different scenereo's  Women who are pregnant and those who will be getting ready to be released.    They were the primary care giver and will return to that position after they are released.

3:03:00 ~ 1/21/2011 5:13:43 PM ~ Edmonds  I think that it is a supplemental

3:03:44 ~ 1/21/2011 5:14:27 PM ~ Berger  Failed    Wallis I would like to make an amendment for Phase 1 & 2  design  Houseing Units  8201   Carried  8301  Carried   Closed out

3:06:19 ~ 1/21/2011 5:17:03 PM ~ Nicholas     Section 300  Stem Building  Do we need clarification  3.5 mill   Motion Carried  A very effective councel thinks that we should be this a separtate item.  This is the preference unit.

3:09:43 ~ 1/21/2011 5:20:27 PM ~ Berger  Did you want to bring this  Does every one have the most current copy of the CMAR  Be back at 5:30

3:11:46 ~ 1/21/2011 6:11:02 PM ~ Continuation of budget mark up

3:12:31 ~ 1/21/2011 6:11:47 PM ~ Berger:  Locals..,  Nicholas:  do not divert any revenues for locals..any revenues will appropriated  Berger:  Motion carried  Nicholas: 30 million for citys, town, counties  30 million for highways  Von Slater: 30 million for highways to 50 million  Nicholas:  starting place...  Berger: 30 million passes  Von Flatern: 50 million for highways only  Harshman:  ..  Berger: number  Von Flatern:  40 million highways Approved  Berger:  30 on cities, 40 on highways..  35 on locals.. Carried  Berger: any other changes  Hastert: 40 on locals Not approved  Meier:  Local distribution  ... Senate side.. house side different formula Exact same % for capital projects as done in 2008 for consensus block None under current formula on handout. Adding the block grant to it Total formula for 2nd biennium..look a lot like the 2008  Berger:  2008 session law copy for everyone?  Meier:  ...majority figured by population..staff assurred me they can make the conforming amendments and what needs to go into ..  Nicholas  Meier:  County least 70% ..subsection a block grant to the counties, cities and towns..  Nicholas:   ok with....  Meier:  want to get everything the same as 2008..just apply them to this amount of money  Bill:  Use 2008 population  Von Flatern:  Population numbers not updated, have trouble with it  Nicholas:  Distribution sheet...pull distribution sheet  Harshman:  2007 assessment and ...  Berger: No you did not  Harshman:  Everything else based on 2010..not past history...better numbers  Nicholas:  Issue ..are you going to adopt a number we have not seen, assuming it comes in ...consequences are unintended...census come out..communities can appeal..will leave not knowing the distribution..members should leave knowing what their communities are going to get...last census showed Rock Springs was losing population, which it ws not  Harshman:  2006 estimates...redistricting,  severance taxes..everything based on 2010 census...people will not know other distributions either..most recent census data..

3:25:26 ~ 1/21/2011 6:24:42 PM ~ Nicholas:  Recent data..recent sales tax info  Wallis:  Responsible to make all figures as current as we can...2010 census info in Feb or March?  Do we distribute money before that happens?   Bill:  Will not distribute but you will be gone and bill will be on floor and finished before then  Berger:  Additional money not anticipating..distribution fair and equitable  Von Flatern:  I believe in current data..know the amount..has probably moved proporitonately  Peterson:  Consensus block grant..last time had 2 pots ..the grant and dsitribution.. size down to counties..  Meier:  Current data..most current data available but have to have the data in front of us and know how it affects us..can go to 2009 assessed valuation..for me to make a decision based on something I have no idea how it will affect everyone in the state..can't do it Proposition for how formula will not know of another formula we could use to distribute for capital not want to develop one  Harshman:  50,000 or 60,000 people not represented..  Technical question 15% ...or ..not sales tax but assessed valuation  Meier:  Passed last session..stays the way it is..add to the side a capital projects formula distribution formula, approved in 2008 consensus block grant..  Dean spreadsheet passed out  Nicholas:  Discussion of data..larger influence among Cheyenne and Casper..largest population and assessment went down  Bill: 2008 was blip year   2009 is down where 2007 was...couple categories are up..looks similar to 2007 .. population piece...Apply H from 2008 law , question for Dave Gruver..would not have population updates ...  Nicholas:  2009 census data and assessment  Bill:  2010 or ...  Harshman:  When will distributions go out?  g  Bill:  2010 law, were for August 15.  Nicholas:  assume aug 15 for the %  Bill:  ..census...I think it will be more clear to who does distribution ...pick the year.. do not want to leave to interpretation..spell it out  Von Flatern:  conforming language..specify the 2010 census  Motion approved  Nicolas:  Assessed valuation be 2010  Bill  2009 tax year  Nicholas:  2009 tax year  Motion carried  Peterson,  The dollar amount we are talking about, you could only do three.  Berger  That is just under $3 mill.  Peterson  No more like 1.3  Mill.  Nicholas  You can't use it for saleries so you have to use for capital  improvements.  Berger  It depends who has the bully pulpit  Berger  We would have to specify it is one time formula  Berger  Motion Carried  Nicholas   I would like to put a footnote that the campbell county be placed in the regional campbell county water project.

3:42:22 ~ 1/21/2011 6:41:38 PM ~ Peterson  This is similar to what they are doing in Gillette.   They are looking at a $200,000 overrun.  There suggestion is for the county commisionors to have first shot at the $200,000.  It represents  our needs  My motion is the take the $200,000 out of general funds,  Passed  Highways   Bill   I has to do with the prior distribution  Do we want the second distribution based on the 2010 census  Nicholas  The latest bill was drafted   I would make a motion that any funding in the bill would be based on the 2010 census.    15 Mill in the Gov's office to recruit Data Centers.  The gov can direct it to any agency he wants  Harshman  We have linked it to a mega data center.    Nicholas  Data Centers that bring   Edmonds  I would like to amend that so it applies to multiple centers and not just one.  Nicholas  There needs to be some langurage that the investment includes jobys  Steward  It was sited in Gov  letter to   Nicholas  We have to draft the bill.   Adopt  I specify it would be for all communites.  Nicholas  We have a motion that the monies will not be replaced

3:55:03 ~ 1/21/2011 6:54:18 PM ~ Von Flatern  Are we still using the term "Mega" centers  Nicholas  The money is only available for centers over 50 jobs.    Edmond  Not knowing we  could be whittling one of these companies out.  Nicholas   I want them here, we don't want to just give away the money

3:57:42 ~ 1/21/2011 6:56:58 PM ~ Edmonds  You know we have the   Berger   We want it broad but with accountability  Nicholas   Encar was different.   It would take into account tax generation  Where are we taking the 20 mill. from.  Nicholas  we will post those reversions  Bill  None of the intent has been to dip in any of the straw or anything.    Nicholas  We need a common position   Bill   My guess this thing can balance.  The don't transfer until June of 2012, we have to have enough flexability to get that done.

4:02:40 ~ 1/21/2011 7:01:56 PM ~ Edmonds  I would make the motion to take that back down to 15mill.

4:03:21 ~ 1/21/2011 7:02:37 PM ~ Steward   Highway Dept.  40 mill one time   Propose two differnt ways to do  6 mill for railraid quite zones  Either 6 out of the 40 or add 6 to the 40 mill.  Harshman  There are some places Campbell has 7% of the coal in the world.    Von Flatern  Where does the 6 mill come from  Harshman  From WYDOT  Nicholas  THey also want money for roads and keyed up.  At some point we  Harshman  Not all are from Niobrara County    Berger  Motion Carriers  Harshman  Smaller amendment  talking about 7% of the coal   Powder RIver coal will be shipped to Asia   The issue is to get them permitted to haul coal.   It is a statement for the Wyoming Legislature and the Governor.   About 50 mill more tons of coal.    Berger  Motioned Carried  Harshman   Section 300  Blind students to go to campl  Bill   The 6 mill is in addition to the 40 mill.  Harshman  DOT  want to see some numbers on how air enhancements to Wy towns.  Nicholas  Cites Towns and Counties language  In the event that the cREG estimates are at least equal to last years  that the GOv include not less than 125 mill. to cities town and counties. ..  Berger:  I support that motion and agree  Steward:  Bill in committee next week..predict ..good reliabiilty source of revenue for local govts..that language in amendments would ...  Nicholas: ..has no requirement on us..Governor when prepares budget will provide that level of support  Motion carried

4:18:22 ~ 1/21/2011 7:17:38 PM ~ Nciholas:  Gov letter..jumpt to DEQ double counting...335,  make sure no double counting..  Bill: adopt language in principal for us to adopt..  Nicholas so moved  Berger:  carried

4:19:28 ~ 1/21/2011 7:18:44 PM ~ fNicholas: remove frozen positions  Von Flatern.. just positions not money  Berger: Eliminate positions  Bill:  244 by Richard's count today  Meier:  include 25 positions in the Govs flex  Richard:  Yes it would  Meier: amend to leave 25 positions.. take away the rest  Berger: had 25 but used one  Richard:  Total amount was allowed Gov to use 10% or 25.. Today we have used one of those not know exact count.  gets us down to 244...count is now 244..  Meier:  Move to say number is 10 instead of 24 so Governor has 10 ... Get rid of 234, not 244  Motion to eliminate 244  Harshman:  Money.. what happens with money  Berger;;  Eliminate vacancies and funding ..would not have money for MPP  Harshman:  Question...  Put some amendment that could not use for 100  Nicholas.. Harshamn.. money can not be used anywher else  Richard:  With the elimination of the 244 positons.  money will remain for rest of biennium will be taken off the states system..m  Nicholas:  dollars will go away a year from ths summer  Motion carries

4:24:40 ~ 1/21/2011 7:23:56 PM ~ Governor's letters:    Berger:  What else is left.?  Bill: Most of big issues in gov's letters  Bill:  deal with 51, dealt with 2nd bullet point...dealt with compensation stuff in thrid one...last bullet point, dealt with 14.5 million for mega data centers... Need to deal with 100,000 in final paragraph..  .

4:27:16 ~ 1/21/2011 7:26:31 PM ~ Berger:  Letter 2  Bill:  Veterans memorial  Bill Letter 5: some of the same issues... health care litigation issue... 3.5 million fund  Berger:  took care of ..  Bill:  air service.. livestock,

4:29:29 ~ 1/21/2011 7:28:45 PM ~ Berger:  Letter number one;    Steward:  Language is profiled  Dawn: that is on Bill's list  Berger:  Gov letter 1, dated Dec 13,   State medicaid..set aside in state auditors office  Bullet Point 1..   Dawn:  additional amount gov wants set aside to cover ...51 million...  Bill:  Have not disposed of this with it  Berger:  delete it..worked through the process today..consistent with what we have done  Von Flatern:  comment about hole  Bill:    Nicholas: move to reject gov's letter ..51 million carried motion  spra amount rejected..carried  compensation division..reject..carried  610,000 for Niobarar..accept..carried  Trust fund..16 million ...move gov direct.. Peterson:  recommend 5. million Cut it in half division Motion passed...  Other changes  Nicholas  Move that we provide the 3.5 million to UW ..the building fund set aside for the STEM building..University be allowed to apply for 3.5 million for AML  Bill:  It is the saving issue...allow them to swap out  Motion withdrawn  Nicholas: 3.5 million for endowment matches or operating costs for the STEM building  Trust recommendation by Gov Mead as rec...carried

4:36:10 ~ 1/21/2011 7:35:26 PM ~ fBerger: data centers Motion to reject  carried

4:36:39 ~ 1/21/2011 7:35:54 PM ~ Berger:   Nicholas  100, 000 adopt recommendation motion carried  Nicholas:  In capital construction budget, authorize up to 200,000 for gov mansion renov Motion carried

4:37:19 ~ 1/21/2011 7:36:35 PM ~ Berger:  Governor Letter 2   Nicholas:  effective immediately  Berger:  Veterans memorial motion carried on Letter 2

4:37:59 ~ 1/21/2011 7:37:15 PM ~ Berger:  Letter 3  Bill:  Disregard 3 and 4 Go to 5 first paragraph dealt with   Berger:  no figure in it...1000  Nicholas:  25,000 in it  Berger: comment

4:39:30 ~ 1/21/2011 7:39:01 PM ~ Continue  letter 5  3.5 million for sinking fund for STEM building  Meier:  3.5 millin of AML funds and the severance tax distribution used for it be placed in the sinking fund  Severance tax dollars spent..will have invoices turned into AML and will be paid Use ..5 million into sinking funds  Nicholas:  Footnote  Von Flatern:  ?  Nicholas:  UW will get the 50.. the 3.5 million out of their budget..  As a condition of getting the 50 million, the UW f=with the UW foundation will create a 3.5 million endowment fund for the maintenance

4:42:15 ~ 1/21/2011 7:41:46 PM ~ Nicholas:  prior amendment  University is authorized to apply up to 3.5 million of furniture, part of the STEM grant   Edmonds:  In addition to and as part of the endowment  Nicholas:  No..UW has to come up with 3.5 utilize the full 50, can apply as part of that grant furniture equipment and it does not all have to be for construction  Meier: furnishing fixture and equipment for the STEM building...of the 50 3.5  Motion

4:44:23 ~ 1/21/2011 7:43:54 PM ~ Berger: IT   Richard: already a permanent position ..always hired as an AWAC  Nicholas: do not have to take action  Bill:  Want the guy to be a state employee with regular benefits and not a contract employee  Nicholas:  Existing CIO, not at will, have a compensation issue, keep at will, Why would you want   Bill:  ...  Richard:  position may be..  Nicholas:  Move the CIO position be converted to a permanent at will position within the Govs office ochange to A & I  Motion carried..

4:47:05 ~ 1/21/2011 7:46:36 PM ~ Berger:  what else  Bill:  Most important attorney..legislation that ought to address statutes ..UW In this budget bill, add the authority to expend the FMR into the ..budget Motion carried  Bill:  Issue..Past capital construction reversions..  Nicholas:  All reversions from all capital constructions should revert to .. Motion passed  Bill: will adjust to capture  Nicholas:  With respect to reversions..before the reversions, 200,000 for landscaping and parking lot of vet lab in laramie  When they did joint landscaping..move the parking behind the new vet center  Von Flatern: dollar value  Nicholas: 200,000  Edmond: Why is this nececessary quick to revert  Nicholas: project taking place.. reduce the reversions by 200,000j Motion carried

4:50:53 ~ 1/21/2011 7:50:24 PM ~ Nicholas:  CC/ WPP 220  Von Flatern:    Berger; has done that  Esquibel:  LSO staff  Berger: taken care in mgt..  Nicholas:  approve air enhancement? Berger: yes done

4:52:38 ~ 1/21/2011 7:52:09 PM ~ Bill:  Water 4 issue  Bill authority to adjust language as necessary Motion carried  Richard: debate for mega center

4:54:43 ~ 1/21/2011 7:54:14 PM ~ Nicholas  We go round-robin for all the budgets Berger  Goes through all the budgets Meier  New state directory  Move to open Secretary of State  $20,000 new State Directory Berger  Going through all the agencies again.  Harshman  DOT  46 mill.  1% for landscapping  Withdrawn  Meier  48 open  15,000 in epsolepe  one time money  048073 funding reduce by half  Nicholas  We bargined whether each house would   This is the first vote in which the house vote trumped the senate vote.    Steward  I understand the politics of the situation.  Motion Fails  Clarification  You won't vote budget out of committee  49 +  Meier   Motion possiblilty of new gov's residence and ask Rich's shop and evaluate other facilities  (Governor's Mansion)    Berger  Close 63  Round Robin is complete